David Green built Hobby Lobby from a single picture-frame shop into one of the largest privately held retailers in the country—and structured it so that no member of his family owns a share of it. On his 84th birthday, he sits down with Robin John and legacy author Bill High to talk about the calling he almost missed, the fight he took to the Supreme Court, and the difference between a good life and a great one.

This conversation covers David's early discomfort with being "just a retailer" in a family of pastors, the pivotal $30,000 gift that reframed his sense of calling, and two separate multimillion-dollar decisions to walk away from alcohol profits rather than compromise. Robin and David dig into the Hobby Lobby Supreme Court case and the $1.3 million-a-day fine David was willing to risk, then Bill High joins to unpack the ideas behind their new book, The Legacy Life—building for generations instead of building to sell. The episode closes with David reflecting on his own parents' quiet faithfulness and what it means to leave a heritage instead of an inheritance.

Whether you're leading a company, managing a portfolio, or thinking about what you'll pass down, this episode makes the case that eternity—not profit—is the real measuring stick. Watch the full episode on YouTube or listen wherever you get your podcasts.

She was 90 pounds, broken, and sure her life was over—long before her name became one of the most recognized brands in the world. Anne Beiler, founder of Auntie Anne's Pretzels, joins Robin John and Chris Broussard for one of the most vulnerable conversations this show has hosted.

Anne grew up in Old Order Amish in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, before a market stand with $6,000 in ingredients became a global franchise of over 2,000 locations. Along the way: the loss of her 19-month-old daughter, years of secrecy following abuse by a trusted pastor, a marriage nearly lost and then rebuilt, and a God-moment pretzel recipe that changed everything. Robin and Chris open with some Celtics trash talk before diving into a story that's as much about brokenness and faith as it is about franchising and business.

This is a story about what it costs to build something real—and what it costs to finally tell the truth.

[Chapters]
00:00 Introduction
01:16 Welcoming Anne Beiler
02:01 The Pretzel's Origin Story
05:38 Growing Up Amish
08:32 Faith Found Young
09:46 Marriage Family and Tragedy
12:19 Betrayal and Breaking Silence
18:09 Building the Market Stand
22:53 The God Moment Recipe
27:18 Global Growth and Selling
33:53 Ministry After the Sale

Laila Mickelwait tested Pornhub's upload system herself and found no one was checking who was in the videos, how old they were, or whether they'd consented. What followed was a six-year fight that forced Visa, Mastercard, and PayPal to cut ties with the world's fifth-most-visited website and led to the removal of over 50 million images and videos.

Robin John and Chris Broussard sit down with Mickelwait—co-founder and CEO of the Justice Defense Fund, author of Takedown, and the woman behind the Traffickinghub petition—to explore chapter five of The Good Investor: "Fighting Dragons." They cover the mechanics of how she pressured credit card companies into action, the private equity firm now defending Pornhub under the name "Ethical Capital Partners," what 27 states are doing on age verification law, and what it actually looks like for an investor to use their capital as a tool against exploitation rather than for it.

This is one of the more sobering conversations the show has hosted, while also being one of the more hopeful about the power of investing to make a real difference in the face of evil. Mickelwait leaves listeners with a clear answer to the question every Christian investor should be asking: what am I rooting for, and what am I willing to do about it?

[Chapters]
00:00 Introduction
02:20 Meet Laila Mickelwait
04:08 The Night Everything Changed
06:40 Forcing Pornhub's Hand
08:40 Following the Money
14:17 Threats, Backlash, and Unity
16:24 Business as Blessing or Harm
20:23 Ethical Capital Partners Exposed
25:06 A Survivor's Story
29:04 50 Million Images Removed
30:45 Legislation and Age Verification
35:16 Her Father's Influence
37:18 How You Can Help

He was the sixth pick in one of the best draft classes in NBA history. He earned roughly $108 million across three NBA contracts. And two years after he stopped playing, he filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy.

Robin John and Chris Broussard sit down with three-time All-Star Antoine Walker for a conversation that starts with basketball and moves into the real story: a real estate partnership that fell apart during the 2008 recession, a Vegas gambling story that became national news, and what it actually took to rebuild. Antoine speaks candidly about the financial pressure of fame, the friends and family counting on him, and the faith that brought him back from what he calls a low point.

Robin lays out his framework for the difference between investing and gambling, and reflects on identity—what happens when your work isn't the thing you thought it would always be. Antoine now speaks to college and pro athletes through the NBA Players Association and Morgan Stanley's Global Sports & Entertainment group about the mistakes he made and the ones he sees the next generation of NIL-era athletes about to repeat.

[Chapters]
00:00 Introduction
00:00 Meet Antoine Walker
01:40 Ahead of His Time
05:59 The $108 Million Question
07:52 The Real Estate Deal Gone Wrong
13:49 Filing Bankruptcy
18:50 The Ten Year Window
22:53 Rookie Money, No Playbook
28:16 Fame, Pressure and Gambling
38:47 Identity Beyond Basketball
43:06 Advice for the Next Generation
47:42 Playing Against Michael Jordan

Greg Brenneman has turned around Continental Airlines, Burger King, Quiznos, and PwC Consulting. But the framework that changed his life the most wasn't a business plan — it was a one-page plan for himself.

Robin John and Chris Broussard sit down with the Executive Chairman of CCMP Capital and Home Depot board director to talk about eulogy virtues versus resume virtues, why Home Depot bet $11 billion on its own employees during COVID, and the moment when, at 45, Greg realized his faith had gone lukewarm. The conversation moves from boardrooms to Scripture to the Knicks' championship run—and lands on a simple leadership rule Greg has carried through every crisis: absorb fear, exude hope.

Whether you're leading a team, building a business, or just trying to figure out what actually matters before you're 85, this episode gives you a framework you can use today.

[Chapters]
00:00 Introduction
02:51 Eulogy Virtues Not Resume Virtues
06:27 The Purpose of Business
10:14 Home Depot and Good Jobs
15:11 Confronting a Lukewarm Faith
19:51 Five Steps for Business and Life
24:54 The Lonely Job of a CEO
29:04 The Five F's Framework
36:16 Absorb Fear Exude Hope
38:48 Is AI Coming for Your Job
43:48 Knicks Championship and Character

The dominant vision of Christianity in the West—souls evacuating to heaven—is not what the Bible actually teaches. NT. Wright has been saying this for 40 years. In this conversation, he finally gets to say it to an asset manager and an NBA analyst.

Robin John and Chris Broussard sit down with Dr. N.T. Wright, Senior Research Fellow at Oxford and author of The Vision of Ephesians, for one of the most theologically dense and practically grounding conversations the show has produced. The episode moves from the Greek word for "poetry" in Ephesians 2:10, to how the early church grew through neighborly action rather than doctrinal export, to what it means that the church is called to be a "small working model of new creation." Robin pushes into what this means for Christian investors. Chris pushes into what it means for the church's racial and cultural fractures.

If you've ever thought seriously about your work, your faith, and what you're actually building — this one is for you.

00:00 Introduction
02:30 What Led NT Wright to Ephesians
05:00 Heaven Is Not the Goal
07:00 The Church as New Creation Model
09:15 Why the Church Lost Its Mission
11:00 Multiculturalism Without the Gospel
13:30 Multi-Ethnic vs. Multicultural
15:30 Economic Segregation in the Church
17:00 What Ephesians Says to Investors
19:15 What the American Church Should Learn
21:00 Culture, Creation, and the New Jerusalem
23:00 Will There Be Sports in New Creation?
28:00 Why New Creation Begins With Jesus

Chris Broussard and Robin John sit down with Mark Cuban to talk about the businesses he has been proud to own and grow - not just for their success, but for the good they have done in the world. From his favorite Shark Tank investments to affordable pharmaceuticals, Cuban shares how innovation is shaping society for the better.

They also got Mark's thoughts on the economic impact of the NBA, the future of AI, and Jordan vs. LeBron.

Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
02:10 Mark Cuban Joins the Show
02:30 NBA Scheduling: Should the League Cut Games?
07:00 Shark Tank: Investments That Made an Impact
10:40 Affordable Pharmaceuticals
13:30 Health Care's Real Problem — It's Not the Doctors
15:20 Drug Innovation: From Lizard Venom to GLP-1s
17:25 AI and the Two Types of People
22:00 The Cooper Flag vs. Luka Question
26:25 The Jordan-LeBron GOAT Debate
31:35 Closing Thoughts
48:57 [Disclosure]