David Green built Hobby Lobby from a single picture-frame shop into one of the largest privately held retailers in the country—and structured it so that no member of his family owns a share of it. On his 84th birthday, he sits down with Robin John and legacy author Bill High to talk about the calling he almost missed, the fight he took to the Supreme Court, and the difference between a good life and a great one.

This conversation covers David's early discomfort with being "just a retailer" in a family of pastors, the pivotal $30,000 gift that reframed his sense of calling, and two separate multimillion-dollar decisions to walk away from alcohol profits rather than compromise. Robin and David dig into the Hobby Lobby Supreme Court case and the $1.3 million-a-day fine David was willing to risk, then Bill High joins to unpack the ideas behind their new book, The Legacy Life—building for generations instead of building to sell. The episode closes with David reflecting on his own parents' quiet faithfulness and what it means to leave a heritage instead of an inheritance.

Whether you're leading a company, managing a portfolio, or thinking about what you'll pass down, this episode makes the case that eternity—not profit—is the real measuring stick. Watch the full episode on YouTube or listen wherever you get your podcasts.

She was 90 pounds, broken, and sure her life was over—long before her name became one of the most recognized brands in the world. Anne Beiler, founder of Auntie Anne's Pretzels, joins Robin John and Chris Broussard for one of the most vulnerable conversations this show has hosted.

Anne grew up in Old Order Amish in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, before a market stand with $6,000 in ingredients became a global franchise of over 2,000 locations. Along the way: the loss of her 19-month-old daughter, years of secrecy following abuse by a trusted pastor, a marriage nearly lost and then rebuilt, and a God-moment pretzel recipe that changed everything. Robin and Chris open with some Celtics trash talk before diving into a story that's as much about brokenness and faith as it is about franchising and business.

This is a story about what it costs to build something real—and what it costs to finally tell the truth.

[Chapters]
00:00 Introduction
01:16 Welcoming Anne Beiler
02:01 The Pretzel's Origin Story
05:38 Growing Up Amish
08:32 Faith Found Young
09:46 Marriage Family and Tragedy
12:19 Betrayal and Breaking Silence
18:09 Building the Market Stand
22:53 The God Moment Recipe
27:18 Global Growth and Selling
33:53 Ministry After the Sale

Laila Mickelwait tested Pornhub's upload system herself and found no one was checking who was in the videos, how old they were, or whether they'd consented. What followed was a six-year fight that forced Visa, Mastercard, and PayPal to cut ties with the world's fifth-most-visited website and led to the removal of over 50 million images and videos.

Robin John and Chris Broussard sit down with Mickelwait—co-founder and CEO of the Justice Defense Fund, author of Takedown, and the woman behind the Traffickinghub petition—to explore chapter five of The Good Investor: "Fighting Dragons." They cover the mechanics of how she pressured credit card companies into action, the private equity firm now defending Pornhub under the name "Ethical Capital Partners," what 27 states are doing on age verification law, and what it actually looks like for an investor to use their capital as a tool against exploitation rather than for it.

This is one of the more sobering conversations the show has hosted, while also being one of the more hopeful about the power of investing to make a real difference in the face of evil. Mickelwait leaves listeners with a clear answer to the question every Christian investor should be asking: what am I rooting for, and what am I willing to do about it?

[Chapters]
00:00 Introduction
02:20 Meet Laila Mickelwait
04:08 The Night Everything Changed
06:40 Forcing Pornhub's Hand
08:40 Following the Money
14:17 Threats, Backlash, and Unity
16:24 Business as Blessing or Harm
20:23 Ethical Capital Partners Exposed
25:06 A Survivor's Story
29:04 50 Million Images Removed
30:45 Legislation and Age Verification
35:16 Her Father's Influence
37:18 How You Can Help