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  • Interview with Heidi Hatch

    Interview with Heidi Hatch
    2025/03/04

    I met Heidi in 2021 while attending church in Provo. We were both students at Brigham Young University at the time, and somehow we began talking. One of us had mentioned losing our mom and that sparked a friendship, connection, and ongoing conversation. We haven’t lived in the same area since then, but I did run into her in 2024. Although we don’t live in the same area anymore (I’m in Virginia, she’s in Utah), we were able to do a virtual meeting earlier this February.


    Heidi lost her mom when she was 19. Her mom had had a tumor on her pancreas when Heidi was only 9. There was a period of remission, however the cancer came back towards the end of the 4th or 5th year. Hearing the details of her story was heart wrenching and also meaningful. She was candid about loss—the ups and downs and everything in between. Overall, a lovely interaction and dialogue!


    Here are some of the topics we explored as I talked with Heidi:


    • The camaraderie and strength that comes with meeting others who have also lost a loved one

    • Avoiding grief as a way of coping

    • Denial—when the loved one’s physical decline is gradual and painful and how it can be hard to face reality

    • What it’s like to become a mother figure (of sorts) to younger siblings when after a mom’s passing

    • Coming together and mourning as a family—being sustained and comforted through close relationships

    • The power of listening when a person is grieving

    • How Heidi finds purpose in her job and other hobbies, such as exercise

    • “It’s okay to be sad when these things happen. But it’s also okay to… move on with your life and… get over it in a way.”
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    45 分
  • Interview with Zina Card

    Interview with Zina Card
    2025/02/18
    This is my first interview of 2025! I opted to interview a childhood friend, Zina Card, to talk about the sudden death of her younger brother, Isaak. He had volunteered in his church to teach people in Brasil about Jesus Christ and the gospel. While there, he had been commuting on a large bus that was hit by a logging truck. The impact killed him instantly. Zina and I discussed these details, among others, in this interview. Although devastating (he was only 20!), it was a powerful conversation and I'm grateful for the insights my friend shared about her experience. In a nutshell, we discussed: Normalizing grief—accepting that death is a reality even if our culture shies away from it The difficulties of a death that was more open to the public eye Respecting that we all process grief differently How Zina's family was able to come together through their loss and process their grief together The denial of loss when the death occurred in another country The power of saying “I’m so sad for you” instead of “I’m sorry” after a loss Confusion in church settings from individuals when death occurs while an individual is serving the Lord
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    48 分
  • Why Grief? An Introduction

    Why Grief? An Introduction
    2025/02/11

    In this episode, I explain the genesis of this podcast—why grief, why loss? Besides losing my mom a few years back, when and why did I decide that starting a podcast would be worthwhile? I also dive into the process of naming this podcast and the funny ideas along the way. Lastly, I explain what to expect in the upcoming weeks and months. Get excited to become acquainted with grief!
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    13 分