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0:00) Welcome to Two Hypnotherapists Talking with me, Denise Billen-Mejia, here in Delaware, USA. (0:06) And me, Les Roberts in St Helens, United Kingdom. (0:10) This weekly podcast is for anyone and everyone who would like to know more about the fascinating (0:14) world of hypnosis and the benefits that it offers.I'm a clinical hypnotherapist (0:21) and specialist in working with children. And I'm a retired medical doctor and consultant (0:28) hypnotist. We are Two Hypnotherapists Talking.So let's get on with the episode. (0:38) Hi, welcome again. And today we're going to talk to Cheryl Ellman, who some of you may (0:44) remember from before when Marta was recording us, but Cheryl has been a hypnotist for some time.(0:51) And this time she's going to talk about another favourite subject that she likes. (0:55) Okay, take it away, Cheryl. (0:59) Hi, everybody.It's such a pleasure to be with the two of you here. (1:07) Lots been going on in the last year or two. But I wanted to say that back in 2011, (1:14) I was at Shelley Stockwell Nicholas's conference in California, and I met a woman named Joan (1:22) Goulding.And Joan, we got to talking and she had been married to her husband. He had passed away (1:30) and they had a school in Victoria, Australia. And they taught hypnosis.Interestingly enough, (1:40) it was illegal to do hypnosis in Victoria. But what they did was they could teach it, (1:47) but you couldn't hypnotize anybody. So the interesting thing of what they did is they (1:51) went through the coursework.It was like, I think, a two-year course. And then they took (1:56) a bus to another province, another state, and went into like a couple of weeks of really like (2:05) hypnotizing each other and going through all the practice stuff and came back and they graduated. (2:14) So she fought for years to get it legalized in Victoria.So she had a daughter. (2:25) Do you happen to know why it wasn't when it was allowed in the rest of Australia? (2:34) Yeah. No, but there are states in the United States that Israel, you have to be a certain (2:45) doctor to take a certain course to do hypnosis.So there's different things in different countries. (2:52) And also the whole country, Israel requires you to be a physician. (2:58) Yeah.Yeah. (2:59) Anyway, let's get back to Australia. So what did she do? (3:04) So Joan had a daughter and she and her husband, her first husband, had moved.They were, (3:15) what do you call them? Poms? They had moved from England. 10 pound pom, I think it was. (3:20) 10 pound pom, yeah.(3:22) Right. And they moved to Australia. And so she had one daughter and she always felt like (3:32) she was a little clumsy.She wasn't really speaking. And then she had another daughter, (3:38) almost like Irish twins. They were pretty close in age.And what she started to notice is Teresa (3:45) was doing all of the, she was following, instead of following her older sister Michelle, (3:52) Michelle was always following and imitating what Teresa was doing. (3:57) So she and her husband had separated. And meanwhile, Joan had gone to speak to psychologists, (4:09) to schools.She had them in different schools. And Michelle, she'd come in and she saw Michelle (4:17) in this corner. And she really didn't have language.And so all this was going on. And (4:24) then one time her ex-husband had come to take the girls for the weekend and never returned them. (4:33) And she was looking for them.And so he had basically kidnapped them. And so it was nine (4:42) months later, he returned Michelle,

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Welcome to Two Hypnotherapists Talking with me, Denise Billen-Mejia, here in Delaware, USA. (0:06) And me, Les Roberts in St Helens, United Kingdom. (0:10) This weekly podcast is for anyone and everyone who would like to know more (0:14) about the fascinating world of hypnosis and the benefits that it offers.(0:19) I'm a clinical hypnotherapist and specialist in working with children. (0:24) And I'm a retired medical doctor and consultant hypnotist. (0:30) We are Two Hypnotherapists Talking.(0:33) So let's get on with the episode. (0:38) Wow. (0:39) Hello.(0:39) Hello. (0:41) How quick have we got to this already? (0:45) I know. (0:46) This year has gone so fast.(0:50) It's a third of the way through. (0:52) We're in the middle of April. (0:53) It's ridiculous.(0:53) Anyway, so what are we going to talk about today? (0:58) I don't know. (0:59) What would you like to talk about? (1:00) I'll tell you what I've just done this morning. (1:03) I have just held a class for EFT for tapping.(1:08) I've held a workshop for children about tapping, which is really, really good for them. (1:19) I don't think we've talked about it. (1:20) I don't think I've talked with Martin about that ever.(1:23) Although we've alluded to it probably. (1:26) We were trained in it in hypno school too. (1:28) There's so much stuff that's hypnosis adjacent.(1:33) I trained in it not long after I'd qualified. (1:37) I decided to train in it because I was just gathering everything together. (1:42) And I never used it.(1:43) It was something that I thought, well, I've got. (1:46) I didn't really use it. (1:47) But now I've started using it a lot with children, with adults as well.(1:52) I saw a young gentleman just before I came on here. (1:56) And he's using it to help him just, you know, sort of calm any anxieties down. (2:05) But the kids are really enjoying it.(2:07) And it's also very, it's very easy for people to do. (2:11) And for children, you want something to be very easy for them to do. (2:16) Yeah, so for those listeners who don't know what EFT is, (2:20) it stands for emotional freedom technique.(2:23) And we can use it to help us to tap out, literally tap out any blockages. (2:31) It's also called tapping. (2:33) So if you Google emotional freedom technique or tapping, (2:37) then you will see exactly what it is.(2:40) And the reason why I use it for children is it's very, very good (2:44) for helping them to sort of manage their emotions more effectively, (2:51) rather than just to think about it. (2:53) They're actually using a subjective support really, aren't they? (2:58) And it gives them something to do when they have those feelings come up (3:02) instead of tearing things or breaking things. (3:06) Yeah, so they say that by tapping, (3:09) by just tapping at certain points on your face, on your hand, (3:14) what it does is it opens up those blockages.(3:18) So I've explained it to the children today. (3:22) Not as that, because I don't think children would understand that. (3:25) So I've used it as a little exercise that they can do (3:30) to help them to understand where they are with their emotions.(3:34) Do you want to just like re-present to us, the audience now? (3:41) It'll be easier for people who are seeing the visual instead of my podcast, (3:45) which is only audio. (3:46) But if you could say where our hands are at the time. (3:49) Yeah, so I teach the child, (3:52) I know there's quite a lot of points on your hands and you can use your side.(3:57) So what I do is I condensed it down to eight points for the children. (4:02) So they start off with the karate chop and

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Welcome to Two Hypnotherapists Talking with me, Denise Billen-Mejia, in Delaware, USA. (0:06) And me, Les Roberts, in St Helens, United Kingdom. (0:10) This weekly podcast is for anyone and everyone who'd like to know more about the fascinating (0:14) world of hypnosis and the benefits that it offers.I'm a clinical hypnotherapist and (0:22) specialist in working with children. And I'm a retired medical doctor (0:26) and consultant hypnotist. We are Two Hypnotherapists Talking.(0:33) So let's get on with the episode. Good afternoon, good evening, or good morning, (0:44) wherever you are in the world today. We have a lovely special guest on today with Denise and I, (0:50) Two Hypnotherapists Talking.And we have the delightful Wendy White, who's joined us today. (0:56) Hello, Wendy. (0:57) Hello, I'm Les.(0:59) Hello. (0:59) Hi, Denise. (1:00) Hi.And you're freshly back from vacation, so you're all ready for this, right? (1:06) It was hot and sunny, so I was very lucky because back in the UK, you had the most awful weather, (1:14) so I was delighted. And actually, now I'm back, the weather hasn't been too bad. I just don't (1:20) think they know I'm back yet, because usually I am known as the rain woman.(1:25) Well, it's raining up here in St. Helens, and we've had very, very high winds the last, (1:32) say, two to three days. (1:33) And we, having had a 75 degree temperature in last week, are now expecting some snow. (1:41) Isn't that lovely? (1:42) More snow.More snow. (1:45) Yeah. Get three English people together and they talk about the weather.(1:48) Okay, Wendy. I haven't met you before today. Hello.Could you briefly explain to our audience (1:56) what you actually do? You're not a hypnotist, right? (2:00) It's so lovely to meet you too, Denise. Yes, now I am a retired childminder from (2:07) Aylesbury in Buckinghamshire in the UK. And I was a childminder for 22 years.(2:17) And in that time, we were governed by Ofsted, and we had to follow the Early Years Foundation stage. (2:28) So this is pretty new to us, because I registered as a childminder in 2000. (2:35) And then in 2014, I think it was, the Early Years Foundation stage came in, (2:42) and we childminders became, well, teachers that had to implement areas of learning.(2:51) Not just implement them, but evidence them as well for when Ofsted came to call. (2:56) What was the age that you were dealing with? (3:00) I looked after children from one year to nine, but the nine-year-olds tended to be after-school kids. (3:10) Well, the nine-year-olds, I'm okay with you deciding how much they should have learned in (3:14) X amount of time, but a one-year-old? Yes, a one-year-old.(3:20) Can I stand up by myself is the question. It doesn't matter how old they are, (3:25) you still have to evidence and implement their learning and their growth and their development. (3:34) Everything had to be observed and then noted, and I had a file for each of the children (3:42) with their steps, their progress, first words.Nowadays, it's all computerized, (3:50) and in the States, I think they call it Huckleberry. (3:53) Wouldn't surprise me. My kids are way older than that.(3:57) I can't remember now what the software application is, but generally now, (4:05) childminders use software applications to relay and recount everything that they've (4:11) learned from the children, all their observations. But in the old days, (4:16) everything had to be written down. It t

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(0:00) Welcome to Two Hypnotherapists Talking with me, Denise Villamihia, in Delaware, USA. (0:06) And me, Les Roberts, in St Helens, United Kingdom. (0:10) This weekly podcast is for anyone and everyone who'd like to know more about the fascinating (0:14) world of hypnosis and the benefits that it offers.I'm a clinical hypnotherapist and (0:22) specialist in working with children. And I'm a retired medical doctor (0:26) and consultant hypnotist. We are Two Hypnotherapists Talking.(0:33) So let's get on with the episode. (0:36) Hi, I can't believe we're on episode nine already of this season. (0:43) It's, it's really... (0:43) Yeah, the season's been very, and the weather here has been so strange.(0:47) It's summer, practically, outside. (0:48) I was going to say it looked bright. (0:49) In the 70s, right? (0:50) Yeah.(0:51) And it's not raining. Yesterday was warm, but it rained. (0:54) So is all the snow gone now? (0:55) The official number, the official number is 69.(1:02) Except for the parts that got piled up because people just plowed and left. (1:08) Yeah. (1:09) No, like the salt, they look all right.But yes, it is, we've got a week before the New (1:14) Year, pretty much, a week and a bit. I say New Year, as I explained before, my religion, (1:20) our New Year is the first day of spring. (1:24) So explain that to... (1:27) My husband is feeling happier.(1:29) Explain why this is your New Year. (1:31) We're Baha'is. (1:32) Okay.(1:33) So every religion has its own calendar and our calendar says that first day of spring (1:38) is New Year. And it's preceded by a month of fasting for those under 70. (1:46) And so my husband, he has passed that number.He doesn't want to let go of the fast. (1:51) And he's still fasting. But the days are definitely getting much nicer.(1:56) It's very nice here today, very mild today. However, according to the weather, we have (2:03) got torrents of rain coming across. So that's what it's like, but I will... (2:08) Keep it there.We don't want it further. (2:11) No, it's actually coming. Yeah, it's actually coming from you, from your way.So I don't (2:15) know whether it's... (2:16) Oh, sorry about that. That was what we had last week then. (2:18) Probably, yes, exactly.My husband always, he always jokes about, because I'm originally (2:25) from Manchester and he always says that people from Manchester have webbed feet because it (2:30) constantly rains in Manchester. (2:32) Doesn't it rain all the time? (2:34) It doesn't, but yeah, the weather here has just been atrocious. Our garden is, it's clay.(2:42) It's, you know, the soil's very clay. So you can imagine it, it just absorbs all of the... (2:49) Heavy. (2:50) Yeah, all of the rain.(2:51) And backbreaking when you need to get out of the field. (2:54) It's just wet all the time. So that's delayed having my cabin built as well.So... (3:01) Oh, that's right. I forgot you were about to move in. (3:04) I know.But it's all right. It's all good. It's all good.(3:07) Yes, we are quite well established now and you've got, this is the, (3:12) you think this is going to be the ninth episode? It's difficult when you record ahead of time (3:16) to figure out where things are, but yes, that's good. So we're nearly done with (3:20) season eight and we'll be prepping for season nine. (3:23) We are, yeah.(3:24) Already had a guest agreed. (3:27) Yeah, it's exciting, isn't it? And I've learned so much. That is going to help my practice as (3:33) well because I never, I've run a podcast with Tony, one of our guests.We do a podcast, (3:41) but what we do is we send it out exactly as it is. We don't edit i

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0:00) Welcome to Two Hypnotherapists Talking with me, Denise Billen-Mejia, in Delaware, USA. (0:06) And me, Les Roberts, in St Helens, United Kingdom. (0:10) This weekly podcast is for anyone and everyone who'd like to know more about (0:14) the fascinating world of hypnosis and the benefits that it offers.(0:19) I'm a clinical hypnotherapist and specialist in working with children. (0:24) And I'm a retired medical doctor and consultant hypnotist. (0:30) We are Two Hypnotherapists Talking.(0:33) So let's get on with the episode. (0:37) So, hi everybody, wherever you are. (0:40) We've got a very special guest today and his name is Tony Gordon.(0:44) He's a friend of mine as well. (0:46) I've done a lot of work with Tony over the years (0:48) and he's an empowerment leadership coach. (0:53) Welcome, Tony.(0:55) Thank you, Les. (0:55) And thank you, Denise, for having me on. (0:57) You're welcome.(0:59) So actually, it's a great opportunity to hear (1:02) somebody else's take on the work we do. (1:05) So that's really good. (1:06) How long have you been in that field? (1:09) I suppose five years.(1:11) Two thousand and twenty one. (1:14) I was made redundant from a bank I worked in, part of the HSBC group, (1:18) where I was a mental health first aider. (1:20) And I used to get frustrated in the bank that I knew I could tell people more, (1:24) but I wasn't allowed because being the first aider, (1:26) I had to then pass them on to counsellors.(1:30) And a lot of the people used to tell me that it was great doing that, (1:33) but it wasn't suitable for them. (1:35) It wasn't right for them. (1:36) So I used the redundancy to retrain rather just... (1:39) I've been a coach for over 20 years in the bank.(1:42) And what I decided to do was to train in hypnotherapy (1:45) because I'd been using self-hypnosis to help me through an illness (1:48) and realised that hypnotherapy and NLP, (1:52) which I found out through the same people, (1:54) hand-in-hand was probably the most powerful medium (1:57) that I found to help those people. (1:59) The coaching had done great things with them, (2:02) but not to the extent I could do with this. (2:05) Yeah, just a sort of asterisk there by that comment.(2:10) One of the things that we're concerned about is this overselling. (2:14) I absolutely think that, for a start, (2:16) every single person on the planet has been hypnotised in some way at some time, (2:21) not necessarily by a hypnotist, (2:23) but that this is a natural thing that happens (2:27) and we can all use it and get value from it. (2:31) And how do people find you these days? (2:35) Do you go out and speak or do you just romance? (2:39) I do a bit of everything.(2:42) Networking. (2:43) I was an ambassador for a network group for the last two years as well, (2:45) so I led the networks. (2:47) I do a lot of talks on different subjects as well (2:50) for people in the corporate world (2:52) as well as in private.(2:56) And also, a lot of my work has always came from referrals (3:00) from previous clients or companies that I've done work with (3:04) whose staff may suddenly have issues. (3:06) So although I've done the team building and leadership training, (3:09) they realise when the staff have certain issues there (3:11) that they can come to me (3:12) and I can do one-on-one with them as well. (3:14) Are these people who come to you for business issues (3:17) and you realise there are some underlying issues (3:20) that you can help them with? (3:21) Yeah.(3:22) A lot of the people who

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(0:00) Welcome to Two Hypnotherapists Talking with me, Denise Billen-Mejia here in Delaware, USA. (0:06) And me, Les Roberts in St Helens, United Kingdom.

Speaker 2

(0:10) This weekly podcast is for anyone and everyone who'd like to know more about the fascinating world of hypnosis and the benefits that it offers.

Speaker 1

(0:19) I'm a clinical hypnotherapist and specialist in working with children. (0:25) And I'm a retired medical doctor and consultant hypnotist. (0:29) We are Two Hypnotherapists Talking.(0:33) So let's get on with the episode.

Speaker 2

(0:36) Come to you with what they would often say is a minor problem, but it's really impacting them. (0:43) What kinds of things?

Speaker 1

(0:45) Not so much now, but I used to get a lot of adults diagnosing themselves with anxiety disorder. (0:56) Coming in saying, my anxiety won't let me do this. (1:01) My anxiety does this to me.(1:04) I can't sleep because of my anxiety. (1:07) I can't go out because of my anxiety. (1:10) Did they know what was causing the anxiety?

Speaker 2

(1:13) Where it came from?

Speaker 1

(1:14) Yeah, sometimes. (1:17) However, yes. (1:18) So what I used to do is I used to ask them, first of all, I was quite to say, your anxiety, who's given it to you?(1:26) Who's given it to you? (1:28) Have you been diagnosed with anxiety? (1:30) And they'll go, no, I haven't.(1:33) Yeah. (1:33) So they haven't been diagnosed. (1:35) They've not had a formal diagnosis.(1:38) However, what they have done is diagnosed themselves, use that label and obviously been living up to that label as well. (1:47) Anxiety.

Speaker 2

(1:48) So once they, when they ask you, do you then say, would you like to try some hypnosis? (1:52) Would you like to try some chat with me and see if it works or do they come in seeking hypnosis because they're self-diagnosed?

Speaker 1

(1:59) So I explained to them that I am not qualified to diagnose anything. (2:05) All I can do is refer you back to your doctor. (2:09) Should you want a diagnosis of anxiety?(2:13) I do have a little anxiety questionnaire that I use with the adults, not with the children that can sort of.

Speaker 2

(2:22) Would you mind sending it to me?

Speaker 1

(2:24) No, I will send it to you. (2:26) Yeah. (2:26) A lot of adults will come in with self-diagnosed issues.(2:32) I have a phobia of this. (2:33) I have a phobia of that. (2:36) So again, I say to them, describe your phobia.(2:40) Why is it a phobia and not a fear? (2:43) And straight away, quite a few of them will go, Oh, I don't, I don't know. (2:47) I don't know the difference.

Speaker 2

(2:48) I think most people not having taught what they are, would say phobia is just worse fear. (2:55) It's a clinical word, so it must be a serious thing.

Speaker 1

(2:59) Yeah. (2:59) But we, we know, correct me if I'm wrong, Denise, that a phobia is something that's already happened to you. (3:05) You've had a past experience.(3:07) Say for instance, it was wasps or something. (3:10) You've had a past experience that's not been very good and it's.

Speaker 2

(3:15) Yeah. (3:16) Although very often, well, I would not, I would not define it that way. (3:24) Phobia is something that's, that's possible.(3:27) Fear is something that's possible. (3:28) Phobia tends to be unrealistic. (3:31) Like I personally have a phobia about sharks.(3:36) But you've never met. (3:37) Beca

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(0:10) This weekly podcast is for anyone and everyone who'd like to know more about the fascinating world of hypnosis and the benefits that it offers.

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(0:19) I'm a clinical hypnotherapist and specialist in working with children.

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(0:25) And I'm a retired medical doctor and consultant hypnotist.

Speaker 1

(0:29) We are Two Hypnotherapists Talking. (0:33) So let's get on with the episode. (0:36) Hello everybody from wherever you are in this world.(0:39) This is Two Hypnotherapists Talking, myself and Denise. (0:43) And we have a special guest on today, which is Nova. (0:47) And Nova runs Essex Hypnosis down south in England.(0:54) Welcome Nova. (0:55) Hello.

Speaker 3

(0:56) Or as we would say, over the pond.

Speaker 1

(1:01) Yeah, but I'm a bit over from south. (1:03) I just wanted to say down south, you see.

Speaker 3

(1:09) That's reasonable. (1:11) Okay, so Nova, what did you first concentrate on in hypnosis when you started walking?

Speaker 2

(1:22) So my first thing that I started with was quit smoking. (1:28) Wow. (1:29) Yeah.

Speaker 3

(1:30) Did you find it easy to market that? (1:33) I get a lot of people ask me if I do it, but when I say yes, they don't call for appointments.

Speaker 2

(1:40) Yeah, I did in the beginning. (1:42) Yeah, I did market it because it was one of the only things I was doing. (1:47) So yeah, I had to push for quit smoking clients.(1:54) Yeah.

Speaker 3

(1:56) How long is the program that you use to get something from smoking heavily to not smoking at all? (2:09) It is one session. (2:10) Three sessions.(2:11) One session.

Speaker 2

(2:12) One session. (2:13) Yeah. (2:14) Is it a longer session?

Speaker 1

(2:16) How long is the session?

Speaker 2

(2:17) Yeah, yeah. (2:18) So it can the session can go anything up to two hours. (2:22) Right.(2:23) Okay. (2:23) And a bit more sometimes just rings out the hypnotist usually.

Speaker 3

(2:31) Yeah.

Speaker 1

(2:32) Yeah. (2:33) Just through just talking about this, weren't we before we started recording and we were talking about how long we've all been, you know, practicing and what you know, what our easiest thing was. (2:46) And you said, Nova, your easiest thing was spoken.(2:50) And Denise and I both went, well, the easiest thing, because it's not there, is it really?

Speaker 3

(2:57) Well, people have so many reasons for asking about non-smoking programs without really engaging them. (3:03) They are not the ones asking. (3:05) It's because they want to change because of their girlfriend or because of their kids or whatever.

Speaker 2

(3:09) It's got to come from them. (3:11) Exactly. (3:12) And I find that I always with all my clients, if they're coming in for quit smoking, I will always say to them, are you doing this for you?(3:23) Is this about you wanting to do it? (3:26) Because I've had people contact me before that have said, oh, no, I'm doing it for ex family member or they want me to stop because I've got this wrong with me. (3:37) But then you're not doing it for you.

Speaker 3

(3:38) You never have anybody say, my doctor wants me to quit.

Speaker 2

(3:45) No, it's never about the doctor.

Speaker 1

(3:48) No, no. (3:49)

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Denise Billen-Mejia MD CH www.healandberadiant.com office@aahypnosis.com

Les Roberts ACH www.lesrobertshypnotherapy.co.uk contact@lesrobertshypnotherapy.co.uk

(0:00) Welcome to Two Hypnotherapists Talking with me, Denise Billen-Mejia, in Delaware, USA. (0:06) And me, Les Roberts, in St Helens, United Kingdom. (0:10) This weekly podcast is for anyone and everyone who'd like to know more about the fascinating world of hypnosis and the benefits that it offers.(0:19) I'm a clinical hypnotherapist and specialist in working with children. (0:25) And I'm a retired medical doctor and consultant to hypnosis. (0:30) We are Two Hypnotherapists Talking.(0:33) So let's get on with the episode. (0:36) So hi, it's just us again today, isn't it? (0:40) That was exciting.(0:43) We've had some really good guests on so far, haven't we? (0:47) So I thought, Denise, what about if we talked about our clients and explain to whoever is listening why we, of the craft that we deliver, hypnosis or hypnotherapy, is that much shorter rather than weeks or even months? (1:07) I think that, I mean, that's the big selling point.(1:10) Yeah, yeah. (1:11) The fact that hypnosis can get there really quickly compared to other forms of therapy. (1:17) And for most people, once that particular thing is fixed, it isn't like this wears off after a year.(1:25) No, you can be sure that you're OK. (1:28) And all of us, I don't know any hypnotist who wouldn't say, oh, just give me a call if it comes back. (1:34) You know, it's not, you know, we would re-address the issue.(1:38) Because we're dealing with the opposite side of the brain, aren't we, to traditional therapies like CBT and counselling? (1:46) Although I think it's more of an internal side of the brain. (1:49) Yeah, but one size doesn't fit all.(1:52) It doesn't mean to say that we're the better. (1:55) It just means that, you know, we can offer a different way, can't we? (2:00) Rather than just keep going week after week after week or month after month.(2:04) The really major difference, I think, is that with hypnosis, you don't have to keep going over whatever the original insult was. (2:14) It's something, we need to have some idea of what it was. (2:18) Otherwise, we can't craft or talk to you.(2:21) But you don't have to keep revisiting whatever the traumatic event was. (2:26) That's true. (2:27) And I find a lot of it, you can do it content-free, can't you?(2:32) You don't have to. (2:33) Like you said, you don't have to talk about it. (2:35) Because if you talk about it, you have to reprocess that.(2:39) And you're adding all different kinds of emotions and feelings each time. (2:43) Whereas if you deal with the emotions and feelings that are attached to whatever issue you've come to see us for, it just seems to fall into place, doesn't it? (2:55) But it's not an instant thing, even though it's a lot quicker.(2:58) It's not an instant thing, is it? (3:00) No, and obviously, it's also not. (3:02) It looks like the therapist is doing all the work.(3:06) The hypnotist is just, you know, zooming. (3:09) But the client has to, A, really be engaged. (3:13) Really wants the change.(3:15) So it's a lot more client-driven than they believe. (3:20) It is. (3:21) And also, the client needs to want that change.(3:25) But want that change for themselves, really, and not for anybody else. (3:29) Because we did touch a little bit with one of our guests, didn't we? (3:33) About making changes as in smoking or weight loss.(3:37) And you don't do it for anybody else. (3:40) You may have somebody in mind that, you know, you want to stay, you know, longer and be fitter to spend time with them. (3:48) But at the end of the day, it's got to be done.(3:51) Because really, you want to make this change. (3:53) Yeah, that's really the