In this conversation, we explore the therapists we wish we had - and what we've learned about advocating for our needs in therapy spaces. We share what we wish we'd known when we started our own therapy journeys, the power of naming emotions, and the ways stigma can shape our willingness to seek help. We also own the truth that even as therapists, we can sometimes be avoidant in our own healing work.

**Disclaimer: We're therapists, but this isn't therapy. This podcast is for informational purposes only. Listening to this podcast does not create a therapeutic relationship with any of the hosts.

In this episode, we open up about the emotional labor of being therapists during moments of collective trauma — like the pandemic — and the challenge of holding space for others while navigating our own grief, fear, and fatigue. We talk about what it means to be both healer and human in a world where societal decisions directly impact our clients and ourselves.

We also reflect on how we care for ourselves (or try to), and share a moment of love and laughter when Morgan and Nelly gifted Maya their favorite water bottle — because hydration is a form of care, too.

We're so excited to finally share this with you! In this episode, you'll get to know us, hear how we became chosen family, and laugh along as we tell the story of how Nelly thought Morgan and Maya (identical twins) were actually the same person.

We also share why we started this podcast and what you can expect in future episodes - honest conversations about mental health, identity, and the beautiful, messy parts of life.

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