What do you do when you follow the love of your life to a new country and aren’t legally allowed to work? You start Shopify… Dave Young: Welcome to the Empire Builders Podcast, teaching business owners the not so secret techniques that took famous businesses from mom and pop to major brands. Stephen Semple is a marketing consultant, story collector, and storyteller. I’m Stephen’s sidekick and business partner, Dave Young. Before we get into today’s episode, a word from our sponsor, which is, well, it’s us, but we’re highlighting ads we’ve written and produced for our clients. So here’s one of those. [Kooler Garage Doors Ad] Dave Young: Welcome back to the Empire Builders Podcast, eh. Stephen Semple: Eh? Dave Young: See what I did there? See what I did there, Stephen? Stephen Semple: I do. Dave Young: Stephen whispered in my ear that we’re going to talk about a Canadian company, eh. Shopify. Stephen Semple: Shopify. Dave Young: And I didn’t know they were Canadian. Stephen Semple: Yes, they are. Yeah. Dave Young: Well, do tell. Stephen Semple: Yeah. Well, and here’s one of the things that I love about this story is it was started by a person who couldn’t get a job and decided to sell snowboards online. Dave Young: All right. Stephen Semple: Right? Dave Young: Snowboards. Stephen Semple: How could I not love that? Dave Young: Yeah. You would love that all day long. Is that where you bought your first snowboard? Stephen Semple: No, it is not but… Dave Young: Wait, wait, you weren’t that kid, were you? Stephen Semple: No, I was not. So they’re a big deal, annual revenue of close to $12 billion. They’re one of Canada’s most valuable companies with $160 billion market cap. They’ve got 7,600 employees worldwide and kind of like five million online stores in 175 countries. And here’s the figure that got me the most when I was researching it. And it’s the number 378 billion. That’s how much merchandise was sold in a year. $370 billion worth of merchandise was sold through Shopify. Dave Young: All right. Stephen Semple: Put that into context, that’s the GDP of Singapore. Dave Young: Yeah, that’s crazy. Stephen Semple: Isn’t that crazy? Dave Young: That’s a lot of sales. Stephen Semple: Yeah. So Shopify was founded in 2006 in Ottawa by Tobias Lutke, Daniel Weinand and Scott Lake. But our story starts a couple of years before with Snowdevil, the snowboarding business. Dave Young: Okay. Stephen Semple: So Tobias was born and raised in Germany, and his parents had this place in the Alps, and they would often drive to the Alps to go skiing. Then they decided to do a trip to Canada to do Whistler. At the time, the Canadian dollar was low. It was like the 2000s, and he decided he was going to snowboard rather than ski. And this is when he fell in love with two things, snowboarding, and he met his now wife, Fiona. Dave Young: Was she also snowboarding? Do we know? Stephen Semple: I don’t know whether she was snowboarding or not. That’s an interesting question. Dave Young: All right. Stephen Semple: So he returns to Germany, they keep in touch, and when she finishes her bachelor degree, she decides to move to Germany. So in Germany, Tobias struggled in school, ADHD, dyslexia, dropped out after grade 10, and he joins a programming apprenticeship program at Siemens. And he’s part of this kind of rebellious environment. He loves it. And he and Fiona are together for about 10 months, and she decides she needs to return to Ottawa to start her master’s program. So he moves with her to Ottawa. Now, he tried to work remotely, but remember, this is the early 2000s. Tools were not really there. You didn’t have Slack, you didn’t have Zoom. It was tough. He wasn’t really able to do it. Dave Young: A little bit of Skype going on by then maybe, but yeah. Stephen Semple: Yeah, maybe, but even not great, right? He’s spending a bunch of time snowboarding and he dives into it and he’s learning all he can about it. And he even started thinking, “Well, maybe I could sell snowboards online.” And around this time, he gets offer for a job with a business in Ottawa, and the topic of work permit comes up, which oops, he doesn’t have. Dave Young: Doesn’t have a work permit. Yeah. Stephen Semple: Right. He’s legally allowed in the country, but he’s ...
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