Inclusion isn’t failing because people don’t care.
It’s failing because people aren’t incentivised to act inclusive.

Key Topics Covered in This Episode:

1. The Incentive Problem of Diversity and Inclusion
2. Why Inclusion Efforts Stall Despite Good Intentions
3. How to Design Incentives That Actually Reward Inclusion

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Key Takeaways from This Episode:

1. People follow the incentives.
   
   • "People aren’t skipping inclusion because they don’t care. They’re responding to the incentives in front of them."
2. The real inclusion gap is about accountability.
   
   • "If time spent on inclusion feels invisible, people will always choose something else."
3. Don’t ask for inclusion unless you’re willing to incentivise it
   
   • "Reward people who act inclusively"

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3 Reasons You Should Conduct Social Experiments in Your Employee Resource Groups to Promote Diversity

ERGs are “a waste of time.”
Too many people think this.

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Key Takeaways from This Episode:

You can’t scale ERGs if participation is penalised.

"It’s not a lack of commitment. It’s an incentive problem."

Stop pitching passion; start mapping outcomes.

"Leaders want to see business impact."

Instrumental ERGs lead to strategic integration.

"Frame them as business-critical projects."

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Why The 2 Core Functions Of An Employee Resource Group Matter For Diversity & Inclusion

Dr Jonathan’s Thesis

You’ve heard people telling stories and acting like it’s evidence.
but how do you turn anecdotes into evidence?

Key Topics Covered in This Episode:

1. Why anecdotes are claims not conclusions
2. The difference between claims, assumptions, and hypotheses
3. How to test ideas without wasting time or budget

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Key Takeaways from This Episode:

1. Anecdotes are starting points, not stopping points.
   • "The story is typically making a claim and they are presenting it as evidence."
2. Anecdotes are hiding places for claims
   • "These are statements but if you’ve been to enough panel events you’ll hear a witty story wrapped around it."
3. Claims aren’t conclusions until they’re tested.
   • "We don’t just accept that. We test it. We gather evidence to support or contradict it."

Check out these resources:

• Reconstructing Inclusion by Amri B. Johnson
• “You are harder to ignore when you have evidence to support your claims. It works like a magic pill!”

Things are moving so fast with Ask Dr Jonathan.
I want to give you an update and make you a special time sensitive offer you can’t refuse.

Key Topics Covered in This Episode:

1. How to Build an Inclusion Strategy in 60 Minutes
2. Why Ask Dr Jonathan is More Than a Virtual Librarian
3. Details of the Inclusion Impact Sprint Offer

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Key Takeaways from This Episode:

1. You walk away with documents, not just discussions.
   
   • "We generated step by step processes."
2. No deliverables? No payment. Zero risk.
   
   • "If you don’t leave with a board-ready brief and a 7-day pilot roadmap your leaders can use, you don’t pay."
3. You’ve got until August 29th to move.
   
   • "Deadline is Friday 29th August"

Check out these resources (if applicable):

• Inclusion Impact Sprint – A high-impact, time-sensitive offer with only 10 spaces (7 remaining at time of recording).
• Book your Sprint here.

I collect inclusive frameworks like investors collect properties.
I’ve got 3 three I use all the time.

Key Topics Covered in This Episode:

1. The 4 Stages of Psychological Safety

2. Social Exchange Theory

3. PICOC Framework

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Key Takeaways from This Episode:

1. There are 4 stages of Psychological Safety

   • "This model acts as if the beginning of psychological safety has achieved that."

2. Social exchange is built on trust

   • "This is why you also have a social contract — this reflects social exchange, unspecified obligations, no formal contract so you need trust."

3. We use PICOC to get really specific about inclusion work

   • "Instead of vague goals like ‘We want more diversity,’ PICOC forces clarity."

Check out these resources:

• The 4 Stages of Psychological Safety by Timothy R. Clark

• Justice in Social Exchange by Peter M. Blau (1964)

• Evidence-Based Management by Eric Barends and Denise Rousseau

I’m not here to help you pass an exam.
I’m here to help you get results.

Key Topics Covered in This Episode:

1. How to use a simple Inclusion Test in your workplace

2. Why the Inclusion Test is about changing conditions, not memorising content

3. A favourite example of using this in real life.

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Key Takeaways from This Episode:

1. Insights are useless until it’s applied at work.

   • "I love education… but you know what I love even more? Using what you’ve learned to make a difference in your life."

2. Inclusion Test is pass/fail

   • "No attempt is a fail. Any attempt with a measurable result is a pass… too many people fail."

3. Every episode’s question is a blueprint for action.

   • "At the beginning I tell you what I’m going to cover… at the end, I ask a practical question. The answer to that question is an action."

Check out these resources:

• Diversity Pay Gaps: The Explanation You Need To Understand

Things are moving a lot faster than I expected.
I’ve got a special invitation for you — and I’m excited to share this.

Key Topics Covered in This Episode:

1. [My Best Offer Yet — And How You Can Be Part of It]

2. [How This Podcast Became the Longest-Running Inclusion Podcast in the World]

3. [Introducing “Ask Dr Jonathan” — A Custom AI Thought Partner Trained on the Podcast]

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Key Takeaways from This Episode:

1. 1. Work with me to build a resource you’ll actually use.

      • "This isn’t just a product. It’s a tool built with you — not just for you."

   2. There are only 100 spaces — and they will go fast.

      • "I’m creating a Founders Circle. A private group of forward-thinking leaders helping shape the future of evidence-based inclusion."

   3. When it’s gone, it’s gone.

      • "And would like to get that at a once in a lifetime rate... then this is for you."

Check out these resources:

• AskDrJonathan.co – Apply to be part of the Founders Circle

• The Birthday Special : 7 Essential Inclusion Lessons from 7 Years of Podcasting

Not sure if your inclusion work is making an impact?
These 3 questions will show you… fast.

Key Topics Covered in This Episode:

1. How we use The Feasibility Filter

2. Why parties, parades and panel events don't help you

3. why you need leading indicators for your work

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Key Takeaways from This Episode:

1. Are We Solving a Problem That Matters to the Organisation?

   • "If the problem doesn’t link to the business, you’ve got no business talking about it."

2. What’s the outcome we want

   • "Training is not an outcome."

3. Can We Show What’s Changed?

   • "This is the question that separates progress from empty gestures."

Check out these resources:

• Ask Dr. Jonathan: A free tool offering instant access to Dr. Jonathan’s ideas, principles, and actionable advice—based on 400+ podcast episodes, 200+ newsletter editions, and 10+ years of experience with FTSE 100 and Fortune 500 companies. Try it here.

• Progress You Can Prove: Everything you need to prove your organisation is becoming more inclusive. Get it here.