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Pastors & Money Podcast

Pastors & Money Podcast

著者： Joy Suzanne Hunt
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 Helping helps pastors, ministry leaders, and churches stop being limited by finances and start thriving financially, using money as a tool to fuel God’s mission in our churches and our families.© 2025 Joy Suzanne Hunt キリスト教 スピリチュアリティ 聖職・福音主義
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  • 3 Steps to Fight Ministry Burnout and Get Energized Again

    3 Steps to Fight Ministry Burnout and Get Energized Again
    2025/07/09
    Ministry burnout has reached crisis levels, with many pastors leaving the field due to physical, emotional, and spiritual exhaustion. But what if the solution started with something as simple as a 15-minute workout? In this conversation with fitness coach and pastor Steve McKinney, we explore the powerful connection between physical health and ministry effectiveness. Steve shares his practical "Three W" system that's helping pastors prevent ministry burnout while staying strong, focused, and resilient in their calling - without adding hours to an already packed schedule. Resources in this Episode: ep033 with Steve McKinney Fitnessandmore.net The Gospel of Fitness by Steve McKinney Atomic Habits by James Clear John Ridge's "One Minute Pause" - A brief detachment prayer/meditation that says "Jesus, I give everyone and everything to you" Prayer of Agur (from Proverbs 30:8-9) - "Don't give me so much that I forget you Lord, or so little that I have to steal from you. Just give me what I need." Transcript: The Reality of Ministry Burnout and Physical Health Steve McKinney: [00:00:00] When people are trying to choke you, you're not thinking about people who are mad at you, you're thinking about surviving. So that's the beauty of that. Once again, I'm removing those thoughts from my brain. Joy Hunt: Last week, we heard Steve McKinney's incredible story about how he turned his garage gym into a mission field, blending his passion for fitness with pastoral ministry. If you missed that conversation, I'd encourage you to go back and listen. It's a powerful example of finding evangelism opportunities in unexpected places and why we as pastors need to be involved in the community, not just in the church. Now, this podcast is about money, but my heart is to help pastors stay healthy in ministry. And here's the thing: our physical health directly impacts our financial health. When we're constantly stressed and exhausted, we make poor money decisions. It's hard to budget wisely, teach stewardship effectively, or even stay in ministry long enough to build financial stability when we're running on empty. Today, Steve is back to share something [00:01:00] every pastor needs to hear: his practical three-W system for staying physically and emotionally healthy in ministry. The Ministry Burnout Crisis: Why Pastor Health Matters With Pastor burnout at an all-time high and a shortage of pastors in the pipeline, we can't afford to ignore the connection between our physical health, our financial health, and our ministry effectiveness. Steve breaks down his 15-minute workout system. Explains why walking after dinner is a game changer. And shows us how physical discipline helps us take every thought captive. If you're feeling overwhelmed by the idea of adding fitness to your already packed schedule, this conversation will change your perspective. It definitely changed mine. Joy Suzanne: Welcome to the Pastors & Money Podcast. I'm Joy Suzanne Hunt, pastor and financial coach, bringing you conversations about personal finance, church finance and how we disciple our churches in the areas of finance and stewardship. You can find the episode show notes, and more at pastorsandmoney.com. And [00:02:00] here's the show. Meet Steve McKinney: Pastor and Fitness Coach Joy Hunt: Steve McKinney is a bestselling author, fitness coach, and Brazilian Jiujitsu black belt dedicated to. Helping people age strong and live healthier lives. As the owner of Fitness and More Incorporated, he has helped countless individuals transform their bodies through his unique three-W approach to fitness. And why is he on this podcast? Well, Steve is also a church pastor, integrating faith and mindset into his approach to wellness. His book, the Gospel of Fitness, breaks down the Science of Strength training and Nutrition in a way that's practical, sustainable, and life-changing.
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  • How One Pastor Turned His Garage Into a Gym Ministry

    How One Pastor Turned His Garage Into a Gym Ministry
    2025/06/25
    In this episode, Steve McKinney, a bestselling author, fitness coach, Brazilian Jiujitsu black belt, and pastor, shares his journey of integrating his passion for fitness with his faith and how it became a gym ministry. He discusses the importance of aging gracefully, maintaining physical health, and how his unique three W approach to fitness can transform lives. Steve also touches on the challenges of maintaining healthy eating habits in ministry and emphasizes the significance of self-care for effective leadership. Resources from this Episode: The Gospel of Fitness by Steve McKinney (available on Amazon) Fitness and More Website Transcript: Joy Suzanne: [00:00:00] Welcome to the Pastors & Money Podcast. I'm Joy Suzanne Hunt, pastor and financial coach, bringing you conversations about personal finance, church finance and how we disciple our churches in the areas of finance and stewardship. You can find the episode show notes, and more at pastorsandmoney.com. And here's the show. Joy Hunt: Today we have an incredible guest on the show, someone who truly embodies strength, resilience, and faith. Steve McKinney is a bestselling author, fitness coach, and Brazilian Jiujitsu black belt dedicated to. Helping people age strong and live healthier lives. As the owner of Fitness and More Incorporated, he has helped countless individuals transform their bodies through his unique three W approach to fitness. And why is he [00:01:00] on this podcast? Well, Steve is also a church pastor, integrating faith and mindset into his approach to wellness. His book, the Gospel of Fitness, breaks down the Science of Strength training and Nutrition in a way that's practical, sustainable, and life-changing. Well, Steve, welcome to the podcast. Steve McKinney: It's great to be here. Joy, thank you for having me. I'm excited about being here and talking today. The Beginning of a Gym Ministry: From K-Mart Weights to Life-Changing Faith Joy Hunt: So Steve, you've had quite a journey from converting your garage into a gym to becoming a personal trainer, a fitness business owner, and author alongside your ministry. So could you share a bit about your background and how you came to blend your passion for fitness with your faith and your ministry work? Steve McKinney: Absolutely. So, for me, I just always loved lifting weights. I mean, since my childhood. I talk about this in the book, but my grandfather bought me a set of weights when I was nine years old from a place called Kmart. Now, if there's any... Joy Hunt: I used to work there. Steve McKinney: I was gonna say not a lot of people know Kmart, but some [00:02:00] do. And so I always get a laugh out of that whenever I mention it. But they were these plastic weights that he bought me, and I went home and bought this book by a guy named Franco Colombo. And I lifted weights six days a week. Now, I'm nine years old, so I'm not making any gains, but I'm loving it. I'm just loving it! And so then we fast forward. I lifted weights for a long period. Back then, I wasn't walking with the Lord. Both of my parents got sick when they were younger. My father passed away at 49 from cancer. My mother died at 49 on Christmas morning; she died in my arms. Now, the interesting thing about that is her dying words were served. Jesus, tell your brother to serve Jesus. So, at the time, I didn't even know what that meant, and I was trying to go back to church at the time, and it just didn't work. There's a point in time where, you know, we hit that rock bottom moment. I was on my knees. I remember exactly where I was when I just said, "Jesus, you know I've heard a lot about you, but I don't even know if you're real. But if you are, would you show me?" And nothing happened at that moment, but as I was driving to [00:03:00] work a few weeks later, I knew something had changed. Building Community Through Fitness Ministry That was kind of the beginning of the journey.
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  • Creating Spiritual Disciplines and Attention-Rich Communities in a Distracted World

    Creating Spiritual Disciplines and Attention-Rich Communities in a Distracted World
    2025/06/11
    In part two of our conversation with fighter pilot and attention coach Wes Woodhouse, we dive into practical ways ministers can create attention-rich environments that foster deep spiritual disciplines in a distracted world. Learn how to lead by example, establish routines that enhance creativity, and build communities that value presence over distraction. Discover why setting boundaries with technology isn't just good for you—it's essential for effective ministry in today's attention-starved world. Resources: Part one of Focus Like a Fighter Pilot WesWoodhouse.com Interview Transcript: Joy Suzanne: [00:00:00] Welcome to the Pastors & Money Podcast. I'm Joy Suzanne Hunt, pastor and financial coach, bringing you conversations about personal finance, church finance and how we disciple our churches in the areas of finance and stewardship. You can find the episode show notes, and more at pastorsandmoney.com. And here's the show. Joy Hunt: Today we're continuing my conversation with Wes Woodhouse about attention focus and how we can apply fighter pilot techniques to our spiritual disciplines. If you missed part one, I encourage you to go back and listen as we explored the growing attention gap in our society and how it's affecting our spiritual lives. Let me reintroduce Wes. He's a husband, father, marathon runner, and fighter pilot. His mission is to build up the next generation of [00:01:00] leaders armed to take on the dynamic challenges of the attention age. In 2020, he founded Vector Atlas, a leadership development and attention cultivation agency where he leads a mastermind of committed men, grounded in wise counsel and accountability, striving to live a life of purpose. As an attention performance coach, he helps leaders maximize their potential by focusing on what is most important. In our first episode was shared how his experience as a fighter pilot taught him the critical importance of focused attention and how those same principles can help us. In our spiritual walk, ~~we discussed how the distractions of modern life are creating an attention gap.~~ ~~We discussed how the distractions of modern life are creating an attention gap that affects our ability. I gotta try that again.~~ We discussed how the distractions of modern life are creating an attention gap that affects our ability to connect deeply with God and others. In the second part of our conversation, we'll be exploring practical ways to help our congregations develop better focus habits, how to create environments that foster deep spiritual connection, and how to build communities that value presence. Let's jump back into our conversation with Westwood House. Creating Routines for Spiritual Disciplines [00:02:00] Joy Hunt: Right, exactly. So thinking about from a spiritual disciplines, and just our spiritual life perspective, then, you know, sometimes that might look like, do you have a routine of when you do your quiet time or how you set up so that when you start, you can start, instead of sitting down and getting ready to get ready to get ready, Wes Woodhouse: Yeah. Joy Hunt: do you have a, it may not always work out to be a consistent si time of day. Some people's. Life and number of kids they have is not conducive to that. Wes Woodhouse: right. Joy Hunt: do you have something that can anchor you back into that today? I did my Bible study sitting at jury duty, Wes Woodhouse: Yeah. Joy Hunt: which by the way was very distracting. Talk about attention 'cause they've got the TVs on and Wes Woodhouse: Yeah. Joy Hunt: How loud can I make my headphones where I'll still hear if they call my name? You know, but, so that I'm not hearing the whatever home remodeling show that's playing on the TVs. But I was like, okay, we're just gonna pick up and take this routine that I normally do [00:03:00] sitting at my desk and I'm just gonna do it sitting in a room full of 200 people instead.
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