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  • How's Your Ma: Episode 15
    2026/08/06
    In this episode of How's Your Ma?, hosts Orla and Leanne sit down with engaged couple Cathal and Rebecca, founders of the awareness project Different Minds, Same Heart (Project DMs). Based in County Westmeath and set to marry in February 2028, Cathal and Rebecca open up about discovering they were both neurodivergent, and how they're using their wedding journey to spark conversations around autism, ADHD, and mental health.Cathal shares his story of being flagged for autism as a child, being placed in a "special class," years of being misunderstood, and eventually getting an official autism diagnosis in his mid-20s — plus how martial arts and MMA became an outlet for him growing up. Rebecca talks about masking as the "good kid," a burnout at 21 that led to a borderline personality disorder misdiagnosis, and finally getting her ADHD and (likely) Asperger's diagnosis just months before this recording. Together they discuss self-diagnosis and TikTok, complex trauma vs. neurodivergence, sensory sensitivities (fireworks, balloons, noise), medication and therapy (including EMDR), how they met on Plenty of Fish, and their plans for an accessible, sensory-friendly wedding.A warm, honest conversation about masking, late diagnosis, family reactions, and building a life — and a wedding — around acceptance.Time Codes / Chapters00:00 – Intro: meet Cathal & Rebecca, Different Minds Same Heart, their February 2028 wedding00:53 – Why they're using their wedding as a platform for awareness01:56 – Five tips for a neurodivergent-friendly wedding (itinerary sharing, sensory needs, no balloons/fireworks)04:11 – Cathal's childhood: flagged for autism at school, placed in a "special class"05:16 – Family and teachers noticing signs early on06:16 – Complex PTSD, years of being told to "go get tested"06:57 – Official diagnosis: autism, and the ADHD misdiagnosis question08:02 – Getting diagnosed at 26 — "it answered everything"10:11 – Telling his parents; his late father's likely undiagnosed autism10:55 – Growing up in an era of "special classes" and harmful labels12:18 – How casual stigma and slurs shaped attitudes toward disability decades ago14:39 – Introducing Rebecca's story — "the flip side"15:11 – Masking as a "people pleaser" and perfectionist as a child15:54 – Burnout in her early 20s, leaving work due to anxiety and depression18:41 – GP visit, misdiagnosed with borderline personality disorder19:56 – Discovering ADHD through social media — "it's like they read my mind"20:20 – How ADHD presents differently in girls vs. boys21:24 – Barriers to diagnosis in Ireland — cost, waitlists, GP process22:02 – Being the eldest child navigating this alone24:09 – Getting the official diagnosis and the sense of validation25:40 – Assessment reveals likely Asperger's too26:24 – Cathal coming off complex-PTSD medication — the hard withdrawal28:20 – Discussing therapy, EMDR, and access/cost barriers to services30:33 – What ADHD medication actually does (and doesn't do) for Rebecca33:28 – Neurodivergence in their wider families34:42 – Childhood trauma vs. ADHD — how they can look alike35:37 – Self-diagnosis, TikTok, and the difference between traits and being "on the spectrum"39:39 – How Cathal and Rebecca matched on Plenty of Fish41:06 – Their first date story (and the chiropractor mix-up)44:13 – Shared interests: wrestling, superhero movies, staying playful46:53 – Friends' reactions to their diagnoses48:02 – Sensory sensitivities: balloons, fireworks, noise-cancelling ear defenders49:46 – Introducing Project DMs (Different Minds, Same Heart) and its mission51:10 – Fighting online stigma and misinformation around neurodivergence54:00 – Their relationship story — moving in together, saying "I love you"55:04 – Wedding details: February 2028, County Louth, rustic barn venue56:21 – Cathal's MMA and boxing background — coaching, sensory overload in the cage1:01:01 – Rebecca's childhood hobbies — sports, Westlife, wrestling, John Cena1:02:12 – Closing reflections on labels, masking, and acceptance1:03:37 – Where to find Project DMs and how to get involved1:04:51 – Final thoughts and sign-off
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  • How's Your Ma: Episode 14 (Ciara Jones)
    2026/07/30
    This week, Orla and Leanne are joined by Ciara Jones — mother, full-time carer, and one of Ireland's most tireless autism advocates. Ciara is mam to three and a half children (as she puts it) including Gavin, who is autistic, intellectually disabled and preverbal. In 2018 she left a 20-year career to become his full-time carer.Ciara opens up about her happy childhood in Cabra, her parents' quiet strength, and the devastating loss of her own mother — a moment that pushed her to finally open the autism support hub she'd always dreamed of. She shares the story of volunteering in a Russian orphanage in her twenties, meeting her husband Mick and building their family, and the early, lonely days of parenting a non-speaking autistic child.From there, Ciara talks through the extraordinary advocacy work she's built: the AsIAm 5K, the Autism Support Hub she runs with her friend Caroline, the Sparkle for Autism Ball (which has raised almost €400,000 towards a goal of half a million), and her role as founder of Chasing Justice — a group supporting over 200 families whose autistic children have been abused or secluded in Irish schools. She speaks candidly about the day Gavin ran from her at school, what daily life with him looks like now, the guilt she carries about what lies ahead for her other two children as young carers, and what keeps her and Mick going as a couple.It's a raw, funny, and deeply moving conversation about grief, resilience, community, and refusing to let anyone feel alone.Content note: this episode discusses child illness/death (stillbirth, cancer, end-of-life care), and later touches on the abuse and seclusion of autistic children in schools.Timecodes00:00 – Intro: Orla and Leanne welcome Ciara Jones00:14 – Ciara introduces herself: mum of three and a half, full-time carer to Gavin (16), Dara (12) and Éabha/her youngest, plus stepson Michael01:24 – Who Ciara was before "mummy" — growing up in Cabra02:08 – Life as a young carer; her dad the grafter, her mam "the most wonderful mother"03:04 – Her mother's history — printing family, a stillborn baby never spoken of, and Ciara's own birth (an 11.5lb baby!)03:51 – Her mam's two cancer diagnoses and quiet resilience07:07 – The day her mother was diagnosed with breast cancer at 69 — and her mam's dark sense of humour through it09:16 – Volunteering in a Russian orphanage in 2004 — meeting Debbie Deegan, the inspiration behind her advocacy13:30 (approx.) – Meeting Mick, becoming a mum, and Gavin's early years18:25 – Trying for more children, Dara's birth, and the isolation of early autism parenting20:04 – Fundraising for Gavin's school and finding a sense of purpose20:48 – Her 20 years working in Aer Lingus and building an autism community there21:50 – 2018: leaving her career to become Gavin's full-time carer22:25 – Stepson Michael's journey — from meeting Adam Harris to working at AsIAm24:05 – Founding the AsIAm 5K — "we're not an island"25:22 – Realising Gavin deserved to be asked about his day too — communicating with a non-speaking child28:15 – Her mother's death during Covid, told through the glass at the nursing home29:27 – "I'm begging you, don't let her die alone" — being with her mam at the end34:47 – The moment she decided to open the Autism Support Hub35:18 – The Autism Support Hub with Caroline — DCA forms, carer supports, and a free, all-voluntary service36:55 – The origin of the Sparkle for Autism Ball43:30 – Nearly half a million euro raised — and how people can support the cause (Instagram: Ciara Jones — Reaching Out to Autism)45:03 – A day in Gavin's life — his routines, his independence, and his joy47:23 – Orla and Dara as young carers, and the guilt of what the future holds for them49:25 – The day Gavin ran from the car — a story about unpredictability and vigilance54:59 – What it's really like for her and Mick as parents and as a couple57:23 – The power of community — "nobody needs to be alone"59:50 – Founding Chasing Justice — supporting over 200 families whose autistic children have been abused in school1:00:44 – The pattern of blaming the child, not the adults in the room1:01:33 – Seclusion is illegal — but it's still happening1:03:59 – A small win: new child protection guidelines in schools, shaped by Ciara's own case1:06:07 – Final words of wisdom: "find your community... you need to feel you belong"1:09:08 – Closing thoughts and thanks
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  • How's Your Ma: Episode 13
    2026/07/23

    In this episode, hosts Leanne and Orla sit down with Courtney — a PhD scientist who walked away from academia to become a Pilates instructor and digital entrepreneur. As the eldest of five, Courtney opens up about the pressure to prove herself, the quiet burnout that came with "achieving and achieving," and the moment she handed in her notice to build a business instead. The conversation moves through her working-class roots and what it meant to carry them into an academic world that didn't always feel like hers, the toxic competitiveness of PhD life and the grief of losing friendships along the way, and the joy of rebuilding a support system through Pilates, business, and community. Courtney also shares the story of her ten-year relationship, her growing "Aligné" brand (Pilates, digital tools for wellness professionals, and a book club), and her honest advice for young women weighing big life choices: know your why, take the risk, and design a life on your own terms.


    Timecodes

    • 00:00 – Intro: meet Courtney, PhD-turned-Pilates-instructor
    • 00:37 – Courtney's story: years chasing a PhD, then walking away
    • 01:44 – "Who did you do it for?" — proving herself as the eldest of five
    • 02:46 – The turning point: Pilates training and telling her boyfriend she's leaving academia
    • 03:47 – Class, poverty, and staying true to her roots in academia
    • 06:49 – No pause button: school straight through to PhD with no break
    • 08:32 – Starting the business alongside mixed reactions from others
    • 09:36 – Why the work is about people, not just the job
    • 12:07 – Family life: laid-back parents, five siblings, "the whole family has ADHD"
    • 14:04 – Naming the business "Aligné" and quitting the postdoc for good
    • 15:53 – Finding her soul's purpose: helping people directly
    • 17:39 – Learning to look after herself after academic burnout
    • 19:51 – How she met her partner — school sweethearts, ten years together
    • 22:45 – Teaching at the Wellness Center and the story behind "Keith's Elephant"
    • 26:41 – Her boyfriend's life: marching band and the sousaphone
    • 28:15 – Launching Aligné Digital — finance tools for wellness professionals
    • 31:14 – Courtney's Corner book club and always chasing the next idea
    • 31:56 – Looking ahead: marriage, no kids, and a love of travel
    • 34:23 – Advice for aspiring entrepreneurs: take the risk, fake it till you make it
    • 37:02 – Her parents' unconditional support in building the business
    • 38:39 – Friendship in academia vs. the new, supportive friendships she's found
    • 43:32 – The grief of losing friendships in a toxic, competitive environment
    • 46:14 – Could she ever go back to academia?
    • 49:12 – Movement as her emotional outlet and coping tool
    • 51:02 – Her closest friends, Sarah and Shannon
    • 52:46 – What would her friends say about her?
    • 55:07 – Final advice for young women figuring out their path
    • 57:24 – Wrap-up and where to find Courtney
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  • How's Your Ma: Episode 12
    2026/07/16

    This week, Orla and Leanne discuss domestic violence and abuse. Leanne is an Outreach, Prevention & Training Manager at a domestic violence service in South Dublin, and brings her frontline experience to a raw, wide-ranging conversation about what abuse actually looks like — physical, psychological, financial, digital — how it hides in plain sight, why survivors stay, and what it really takes to leave.

    Together they walk through the statistics (1 in 3 women and 1 in 7 men affected), the intergenerational cycle of trauma, the exhausting reality of hypervigilance and "walking on eggshells," and the practical side of safety planning and support services. They also get into how modern dating — situationships, open relationships, age-gap relationships — is reshaping what abuse and healthy boundaries even look like today. It's a heavy topic handled with honesty, humor, and care, ending with a reminder: don't live with it alone, help is out there.

    Content note: This episode discusses domestic violence, abuse, and trauma in detail. Listener discretion advised.

    Timecodes:

    • 00:00 – Intro: this week's topic is domestic violence; meet Leanne
    • 00:38 – The many ways women reach out (helpline, refuge, WhatsApp, email)
    • 01:32 – The stats: 1 in 3 women, 1 in 7 men
    • 02:27 – Spotting the signs — a real-life example on a bus
    • 03:27 – Internal coping and normalized abuse from childhood
    • 04:19 – "It was just a slap" — normalization passed down from parents
    • 05:06 – How people first reach out for help
    • 06:03 – Living in chronic fear and constant risk-assessment
    • 06:53 – Survival mode and hypervigilance after leaving
    • 07:14 – Abuse affects every age group
    • 07:41 – The 2014 study: relationships starting at 15, abuse lasting 20.5 years
    • 08:42 – Culture, religion, and family "tradition" shaping the conversation
    • 09:08 – Breaking the cycle — "boulders vs. pebbles" across generations
    • 10:39 – Talking success stories
    • 12:26 – Case study: a couple with clashing attachment styles
    • 14:14 – Learned behavior and generational patterns of abuse
    • 15:27 – Choice vs. conditioning — when abuse is a choice
    • 16:11 – Childhood memories and the "house of horrors" hidden behind closed doors
    • 17:26 – Ireland only began recording femicides in 1996
    • 18:19 – Awareness campaigns: rural outreach and the 16 Days of Activism
    • 19:06 – Psychological vs. physical abuse — "walking on eggshells"
    • 20:15 – The exhaustion of trauma and constant vigilance
    • 21:14 – How chronic fear changes the brain
    • 22:50 – How to help someone and where to send them
    • 23:43 – Safety planning and risk assessment
    • 24:33 – Practical safety steps: documents, an emergency bag, a safe person
    • 25:19 – Supporting someone who discloses abuse to you
    • 26:04 – The podcast Leanne recorded in a nail salon
    • 26:43 – Men, stigma, and asking for help
    • 27:24 – Leanne's brother — a story about being protected
    • 28:03 – "It's an epidemic" — why sharing this episode matters
    • 28:33 – How many attempts it takes, on average, to leave
    • 29:00 – Harrowing stories from the frontline
    • 30:14 – Sacrificing safety to protect family members
    • 30:57 – Watching survivors rebuild and grow
    • 31:13 – Recovery is a long journey
    • 31:40 – Free workshops and healthy relationships education
    • 32:04 – How modern dating has changed — "seeing" someone vs. official
    • 33:30 – Non-monogamy and shifting relationship norms
    • 34:09 – Emotional safety in undefined relationships
    • 34:35 – Dating again after divorce, later in life
    • 35:14 – Age gaps and the "cougar" conversation
    • 35:46 – LGBTQ+, open, and kink relationships — redefining what's abusive
    • 36:49 – Advice: know who you are, don't settle
    • 37:16 – Breaking the cycle for future generations
    • 37:41 – Reminder: help is out there, don't carry it alone
    • 38:24 – Closing thoughts and how to reach the podcast
    • 38:49 – Sign-off
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  • How's Your Ma: Episode 11
    2026/07/09
    Leanne and Orla, taking stock. After a run of powerful conversations, they sit down to reflect on the guests who've been on the show, the feedback that's poured in from listeners, and the things those stories stirred up in themselves. They talk about the family who show up every day despite everything stacked against them, the healer who divides opinion, and the guest whose story left grown men ringing home in tears. From there the conversation turns personal and unguarded: fear and bravado, resting bitch face, imposter syndrome, growing up mixed-race in Ireland, a dad who survived more than he ever let on, and Leanne's first nervous steps into an Al-Anon meeting after years of unknowingly carrying someone else's addiction. It's a wide-ranging, funny, and raw episode about masking, healing, racism, grief, and choosing kindness — with a fair few tangents about concerts, getaway driving, and the Luas thrown in for good measure.Timecodes00:00 – Intro: no guest this week, just Leanne and Orla reflecting on the podcast so far00:41 – Listener feedback on Asha, Georgia and Mikey's family — positivity, sibling relationships, and "showing up" through struggle02:34 – What it might really be like behind the positivity; wanting to be witnessed rather than performing okay03:44 – Respecting guests' boundaries — "lived stories vs. told stories" and not being entitled to more04:06 – Feedback on Jackie's episode — a husband's reaction, "a tower of strength"05:33 – Why so many male listeners connect with episodes exploring female relationships and vulnerability06:38 – Feedback on Mandy's episode — soul retrieval, skepticism, and curiosity07:33 – Fear vs. impulsiveness — roller coasters, theme parks, and masking fear from the kids09:30 – Bungee jumps, parachutes, and facing fears (mostly not)10:48 – "Resting bitch face," body language, and being read by people who've been through trauma12:36 – Imposter syndrome — growing up mixed-race in Ireland and not knowing where you fit16:15 – Rising racism, a roadside incident, and a partner's first real brush with it17:16 – Racism in school — teachers, bullying, and a brother called names17:53 – Orla's dad mistaken for a "foreigner" moving into his own house20:12 – Her dad's story — army service, resilience, and being "a man full of stories"21:52 – Turning inherited pain into purpose — choosing to help other people23:18 – On healing being a choice, and why not everyone owes their story23:43 – Leanne on going to her first Al-Anon meeting26:32 – Realising she was never fully healed — codependency and being "addicted to chaos"28:47 – The letter that finally pushed her toward healing29:10 – Nerves, courage, and finding her voice in the room31:46 – How she found the meetings, and the "slap of reality"32:49 – Encouraging others affected by someone else's addiction to just try a meeting33:31 – On bravery, survival mode, and a story about ayahuasca and total transformation34:50 – Breaking free of the boxes other people put you in36:16 – Fear of "big things" — driving, crashes, and playful banter about bravery37:32 – A running joke about robbing a bank and being the getaway driver38:14 – Worry about kids on scooters and safety on the roads39:30 – Lighter chat: Take That, Robbie Williams, and Gary Barlow live41:34 – A chaotic Luas ride home from a Wolfe Tones gig, surrounded by Take That fans42:22 – Football talk and TikTok crushes43:11 – Safety concerns on the Luas — women being harassed and attacked44:29 – A racist incident in town — "go back to where you came from"44:55 – Letting go of caring what people think, and choosing not to judge45:37 – Choosing kindness over resentment — "it's hard to be a bitch"46:27 – Grief and anger after losing her dad and brother47:12 – Coming full circle — why they started the podcast in the first place47:41 – Closing thoughts on acknowledging our stories and helping others be themselves48:07 – Masking grief as a mum, daughter, and sister49:42 – The "double bind" — mixed signals kids pick up on, and how it shapes them50:34 – The cultural double bind of never quite belonging51:09 – Sign-off — be kind, be open, and be guide
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  • How's Your Ma: Episode 10
    2026/07/02

    In this deeply moving episode, Orla and Leanne sit down with Mandy — known to many as "Cher Mandy" — a shamanic healer whose extraordinary life journey has taken her from the flats of Inchicore to the housing estates of Clondalkin, through grief, fear, addiction, and profound spiritual awakening.

    Mandy opens up about growing up as the middle child in a family of nine, feeling unseen and at war with herself from a young age. She shares the heartbreak of watching her sister Nicola get caught up in addiction and drugs, the raw grief of losing her, and the precious final year they shared together. She talks candidly about becoming a teenage mother at 16, struggling with postnatal depression, and the years she spent trying to survive rather than truly live — caught between bodybuilding, partying, and numbing pain she didn't yet have the tools to understand.

    From a Buddhist quote on a door that helped her manifest her first home, to a Reiki session on New Year's Eve that cracked everything open, Mandy traces the winding road that led her to shamanic healing — and to herself. She speaks with honesty and warmth about soul retrieval, ancestral wounds, past life healing, mediumship, and how her own lived experience now powers her work helping others release trauma, break generational cycles, and find their way home.

    A raw, real, and deeply human episode. Not one to miss.

    Timecodes:

    • 0:00 — Introductions: Meet Mandy, "Cher Mandy"
    • 0:53 — Where to begin: Growing up one of nine children in Inchicore and Clondalkin
    • 2:37 — Life as the middle child: feeling forgotten and at war with herself
    • 3:33 — Family breakdown, tension, and learning to fight to survive
    • 6:12 — Sister Nicola: addiction, loss, and the stolen soul
    • 8:28 — Nicola's final days and the grief of letting go
    • 12:46 — Becoming a teenage mother at 16: shock, isolation, and postnatal depression
    • 17:32 — The search for space, peace, and belonging
    • 21:41 — Spirituality enters: a Buddhist quote, a prayer, and getting her first home
    • 24:20 — Joining the FCA and finding her fight
    • 27:11 — Bodybuilding, anger, and trying to escape herself
    • 31:41 — Love, loss, and looking for belonging in all the wrong places
    • 33:10 — Childhood traumas: the scald, the haircut, and years of bullying
    • 35:18 — Living in fear: a stalker, a threat to her son, and the moment she stood up
    • 37:49 — Her first healing session: a spirit attachment and a turning point
    • 39:26 — Getting into Reiki and beginning to heal
    • 41:22 — A New Year's Eve call that changed everything
    • 42:05 — Two years of isolation, meditation, and breakdown
    • 43:07 — Meningitis, a full spiritual awakening, and a reset
    • 43:24 — Getting sober and the relationship with alcohol
    • 45:23 — Discovering mediumship and channelling messages
    • 49:35 — Becoming a shamanic healer: soul retrieval explained
    • 52:16 — Past life healing: the priestess, the barbed wire, and reclaiming her voice
    • 53:13 — Ancestral healing and breaking generational cycles
    • 55:34 — Returning a soul piece to her son Carl
    • 57:08 — The twins arrive: trauma and joy collide on the same date
    • 58:32 — How to find Mandy and what her events involve
    • 59:42 — Understanding addiction as a search for wholeness
    • 1:01:05 — Closing reflections: the soul screams until you listen
    • 1:01:46 — Sign-off: walking through the fire to lead others through it
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  • How's Your Ma: Episode 9 (Jackie support and survival pt2)
    2026/06/25
    In this raw and deeply moving second part of Jackie's story, Orla, Leanne and Jackie pick up where they left off — and what follows is one of the most honest and courageous conversations the pod has had.Jackie takes us through the moment she discovered she was pregnant with Abby, and the immediate unravelling of Tony's mask — from "that's what we always wanted" to "I don't believe you're pregnant" within days. What should have been a time of joy became another chapter of coercive control, fear, and isolation, compounded by the devastating news at Jackie's 20-week scan that her baby had a serious heart condition. Abby was born with a complex congenital heart defect — her organs on the wrong side, her heart with only two chambers and a large hole between them — and was rushed straight to Crumlin Children's Hospital from birth. Jackie describes the terror of bringing a medically fragile baby home with a 50% chance of not making it to her first birthday, learning CPR at the hospital door, and doing it all largely alone while living in fear of Abby's father.As Abby grew, so did the abuse — escalating to the night Tony picked Jackie up and threw her across the room in front of Abby, telling her he would have her killed. That was Jackie's light bulb moment. She talks about the court process, the safety orders that were just pieces of paper to him, the guards who didn't take her seriously, and the slow, painful road to finally getting out. She also opens up about eventually finding support through Aoibhneas domestic violence services, being diagnosed with PTSD, and what it felt like to finally have her experience validated.Jackie also speaks about her mother — learning at her deathbed that she likely had autism, and the grief and guilt that came a year later when everything finally made sense. And she speaks about her father, whom she cared for despite everything, and who told her she wasn't his.This is an episode about survival — not just Jackie's, but Abby's. Today, Abby has finished a PLC with nine distinctions, is clued in, strong, and thriving. And Jackie, living in a beautiful little cottage by the sea, is a very different woman — one who doesn't take shit, points out red flags, and has her hand out to anyone who needs it.Her closing words to anyone still in it: Don't ignore the red flags. Don't be afraid to talk. Believe in the experience that you're having.Timecodes00:00 – Intro: Leanne and Orla welcome listeners back for Part 2 of Jackie's story00:25 – Recap: picking up from Part 1, moving into Abby's arrival and life from there00:58 – Jackie calls Tony the moment she finds out she's pregnant — and wonders to this day why she did01:19 – Tony's reaction: "That's what we always wanted" — followed within days by "I don't believe you're pregnant"02:08 – Why Jackie didn't leave: living in constant fear, the body going into autopilot every time he walked through the door02:51 – The roller coaster of Tony's responses to the pregnancy; and Jackie's sister passing away in the middle of it all03:36 – The 20-week scan: the nurse takes too long, asks Jackie to come back — and Jackie's gut knows immediately something is wrong04:48 – Returning for the follow-up scan: brought into a different room, a specialist, a team — "There's something wrong with your baby"05:24 – The diagnosis: a serious heart condition, possibly linked to Down syndrome — Jackie's response: "I don't care if my baby has Down syndrome, I need to know if she'll live"05:40 – Tony's reaction on finding out it's a girl: visible disgust — his only priority was a boy06:32 – Scans at Crumlin Children's Hospital throughout the pregnancy; the surreal terror of being in a children's hospital before Abby is even born07:13 – The cardiologist's bleak prognosis: Abby's organs on the wrong side, liver midline, heart central, two chambers with a large hole between them08:05 – Jackie hiding away during the pregnancy, talking to Abby every day, willing her to just get through08:41 – Abby goes into distress a week before her due date; emergency C-section09:23 – Abby is born — purple, a mop of jet black hair, gorgeous — and immediately taken to Crumlin09:44 – Jackie, post-surgery and unable to walk, left alone in a hospital room while Abby fights for life; Tony's family never once makes contact10:41 – A control call from Tony's ex while Jackie is lying there unable to move — she cuts it short11:32 – The next morning: Jackie discharges herself against medical advice to get to Crumlin; the first time she gets to touch Abby12:21 – Crumlin: emergency blessings, Prostin to keep Abby's arteries open, MRI scans12:53 – Abby's first open-heart surgery at three days old; Jackie describes seeing her baby connected to tubes, unrecognisable13:33 – The abuse never stopped during the pregnancy — always there under the surface; keeping Tony happy just to survive14:10 – Tony thriving off Abby's illness ...
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  • How's Your Ma: Episode 8
    2026/06/18
    In this powerful episode of How's Your Ma?, Orla and Leanne welcome Jackie — and from the very first minute, it's clear this is a story unlike any other. Jackie opens up about a lifetime shaped by survival: growing up in poverty and domestic violence, being placed in an orphanage as a young child, caring for her siblings well before she was old enough to care for herself, and eventually finding safety, warmth, and stability in ways she never expected.Jackie speaks candidly about her marriage, her escape into what felt like freedom, and how a charming man she met at work turned her world upside down — love bombing, coercive control, physical abuse, and the terrifying experience of navigating the courts and family law system while pregnant and afraid. She shares the heartbreak of her baby Abby's serious heart condition diagnosis, the isolation she endured, and the years it took to finally break free.But this isn't just a story of hardship. Jackie speaks with remarkable clarity, humour, and strength about where she is now — in a good place, learning to say no, and writing the next chapter of her life. She even has a book in her. This is Part 1 of a two-part episode.If you or someone you know needs support, you can contact the Domestic Violence helpline SASH on 1800 911 221, or reach out to domestic violence services in your area.Timecodes:00:00 — Welcome & introducing Jackie; Orla and Leanne reflect on her story01:46 — "Everybody has a story — and I'm holding the pen on this one" — Jackie on why she's sharing her truth02:01 — Years of writing and deleting; finding the courage to stop being ashamed04:00 — At 57, stepping into the next chapter; giving yourself permission05:06 — Learning to say no; breaking the people-pleasing habit07:43 — Jackie begins at the beginning: growing up one of eight children in poverty outside Lusk09:01 — Memories of domestic abuse at home; flashes of fear11:14 — The night her mum left through the back window12:06 — Left to care for her younger siblings; feeding and minding babies as a young child14:25 — Mum returns with the guards; taking the children to a refuge (Women's Aid)14:48 — Placed in the orphanage; Sister Stella and a surprisingly safe, warm childhood17:26 — Good memories: summers at the beach, donkeys, hot milk and bedtime stories18:47 — The shame of school; hiding where she lived, feeling different22:26 — Siblings being fostered out one by one; Jackie left behind, too old27:39 — Running down the stairs to greet prospective foster families, hoping to be chosen28:48 — Sister Stella gently suggesting she go live with her gran; Jackie's reluctance32:35 — Moving to her grandmother's; her mum's alcoholism; feeling used, not loved58:38 — Alan has a work accident; Jackie gets her first taste of freedom going to work59:54 — Splitting from Alan in 2002; the loneliness and emotional isolation of that marriage01:00:31 — Meeting her "nightmare" — a charming area manager, the love bombing begins01:03:34 — "He was my Prince Charming — and then he flipped a switch"; the abuse begins01:05:40 — The first attack; not seeing the signs; coercive control and isolation01:07:33 — His sob stories and her empathy; confiding in his mother (his biggest enabler)01:08:55 — The fear; walking on eggshells; the manipulation being worse than the physical abuse01:10:17 — Breaking up in 2007; discovering she's pregnant with Abby01:12:50 — Her sister passes away; the pregnancy continuing amid chaos01:13:58 — The 20-week scan; devastating news about Abby's heart condition01:15:17 — "It doesn't matter if she has Down Syndrome — I just need to know if she'll live"; his reaction to finding out it's a girl01:33:41 — Mental health crisis; her uncle Pat's concern; going to the GP; anti-depressants and an upcoming court case01:35:14 — Navigating family law; the system's failings for domestic abuse survivors01:40:31 — Abby refuses to go back; Jackie stands firm — "She's not going back"01:41:48 — Who he really is; the irony of his "career" in close protection02:10:50 — Jackie today: a different person, a different strength02:11:14 — What she'd do differently now; the strength she's found02:12:06 — Abby thriving; the roller coaster of keeping her daughter held together02:12:27 — Closing words: "Don't ignore the red flags. Don't be afraid to talk."02:13:11 — Resources: SASH Domestic Violence Helpline 1800 911 22102:13:54 — Orla and Leanne reflect on Jackie's journey; what a warrior she is02:16:04 — Jackie's song: Celebrate Me by Sinéad O'Connor — "it sums up everything I've gone through and everything I'm about to embark on"02:17:18 — Teaser for Part 2; wrap-up and outro
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