Get ready for a moving and fascinating conversation. Sandra is joined by guests Sue and Deb to open up about the invisible toll of caregiving—on families, careers, and women’s equality. With decades of experience as executives, coaches, and caregivers themselves, they share unfiltered stories of navigating long-term care, juggling executive roles, parenting, grief, and the relentless demands of being “the rock” at home and at work.
We talk about:
- Deb’s journey from corporate executive to caregiver, losing her husband and parents while raising kids—and how it reshaped her career and purpose
- Sue’s story of caring for her father through end-of-life, balancing a startup role, and transforming her experience into a platform of support for others
- The hidden costs of caregiving: burnout, depression, financial strain, and the unspoken career trade-offs women face
- Why flexibility at work is no longer a “perk” but a necessity for caregivers—and what leaders can do differently
- The three “buckets” of caregiving choices, and the regrets that linger when support isn’t there
- How humor, therapy, friendships, and community can be lifelines through the hardest seasons
- Why reframing caregiving as both a burden and a blessing is essential to shifting culture—and closing the gender gap
Raw, honest, and at times heartbreaking, this conversation shines a light on the realities 75% of caregivers—mostly women—face worldwide. It’s a call for workplaces, leaders, and society to rethink how we support those carrying the heaviest load.
Whether you’re a caregiver now, have been one in the past, or will be in the future, this episode will leave you seen, supported, and inspired to keep pushing for change.
Our guests this week:
Deborah Bakti worked as an executive in seniors’ care for 11 years, and during that time became a resident’s family member three times with her husband, mom, and dad. That life-changing experience led her to found her consulting and training company, THINK Breakthrough Inc, to support seniors’ care organizations in building stronger partnerships with families. Her signature methodology, The Relational Approach™, helps transform the emotionally complex transition into seniors’ care by shifting interactions between staff and families from transactional to relational, building trust, clarity, and connection from the very first day.
Deborah is the author of two books, with a third forthcoming, and hosts The Relational Approach™ podcast.Deborah’s LinkedIn can be found here.
Susan Van Klink is the Founder and CEO of SVK & Associates, where she helps funded start-up founders transform capital into accelerated growth through her proprietary Revenue Flywheel™ model. This proven framework integrates go-to-market strategy, customer acquisition, retention, and expansion into a self-reinforcing loop that drives predictable, scalable results.
Before founding SVK & Associates, Susan spent over 20 years in executive leadership roles at high-growth HCM software companies, guiding organizations through rapid scale and transformation. After stepping away to care for her family — first supporting her father through his end-of-life journey and then fostering her niece’s newborn son — she returned to entrepreneurship with renewed purpose.
Now, Susan channels her deep experience and expertise into helping founders accelerate ARR, extend runway, and build enterprise-ready sales motions designed to deliver sustainable, exponential growth.
Susan’s LinkedIn can be found here.