Sandra and Kirsten sit down with special guest Tammy Heermann, leadership expert and author of Reframe Your Story, to explore how the stories we tell ourselves—and the ones society tells us—shape women’s experiences at work and at home. Together, they unpack the realities of gender inequality, why the gap remains at 124 years, and what we can each do to accelerate change.

We talk about:

• How childhood messages and cultural norms shape women’s definitions of success
• The talk: preparing our daughters for stereotypes, self-worth, and resilience
• The hidden costs of sexism—from burnout to micro-moments that erode confidence
• Stories of women breaking free from limiting beliefs—and how community lifts us up
• Why systemic change matters, but why waiting for it is a mistake

From candid stories of parenting and career trade-offs to raw reflections on sexism, mental health, and self-sabotage, this episode challenges us to rethink how we define leadership, confidence, and equality.

Whether you’re raising daughters, leading teams, or navigating your own “crisis of confidence,” this conversation offers hope, honesty, and practical ways to bridge the gap—one micro moment at a time.

Our guests this week:

Tammy Heermann is an award-winning leadership expert. She’s the author of Reframe Your Story: Real Talk for Women Who Want to Let Go, Do Less and Be More-Together. For over twenty years, she has helped change thousands of mindsets around what it takes to lead, both self and others. Tammy transforms her audiences with alternating moments of humor and heartache as she shares stories of her own journey from senior consultant to senior vice president.

Tammy’s LinkedIn can be found here.

Kirsten Stanger is a seasoned people strategist and Co-Founder of TalentWise Collective, where she helps organizations and leaders unlock their full potential. With more than 25 years of experience spanning corporate and not-for-profit sectors, Kirsten’s career has focused on leadership development, culture transformation, change management, and career transition. Known for her genuine, empowering, and engaging approach, Kirsten brings curiosity, humour, and heart to every room she’s in. She designs and delivers programs that turn insights into real-world results—helping teams strengthen trust, collaboration, and performance.

Kirsten's LinkedIn can be found here.