In this episode, we’re diving into the real talk around money, mindset, and what to do when the economy feels like it’s doing cartwheels. David Frank breaks it down in a way that’s refreshingly honest, surprisingly comforting, and—yes—a little funny too (because what’s financial stress without a tiny dose of humor?).

Whether you're feeling that dip in client inquiries, wondering if a recession is lurking around the corner, or just trying to figure out how to build a cushion that helps you sleep at night, this conversation is going to give you solid ground to stand on.

So pour your coffee, take a breath, and let’s talk about what we can control—because David’s got some seriously grounding advice you won’t want to miss.

08:45 Yes, a Recession Will Happen
10:34 Change Is Inevitable—Don’t Fight It
15:00 Navigating a Dip in Referrals with Long-Term Perspective
17:00 Financial Lessons for Business and Life
20:29 Emergency Fund Guidelines for Group Practices
22:10 Lessons from Change Healthcare and COVID-19
24:59 The Spiritual Side of Non-Attachment and Resilience

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Have you ever had that moment of panic when your private practice income suddenly dips — and you’re not sure why?

In this episode, financial powerhouse and author of Profit First for Therapists, Julie Herres, is breaking down exactly how to prevent those dreaded income slumps before they hit. From digging into your past financial data to spotting patterns, strengthening your systems, and building a safety net, Julie shares actionable strategies to help you take control of your business finances like a true CEO.

Whether you’re just starting out or running a thriving group practice, this episode is packed with practical insights to help you prepare, pivot, and protect your profit — without the stress. If you’ve ever wanted to feel confident looking at your numbers (yes, even the scary ones!), hit play now — you don’t want to miss this.

04:37 Understanding and Preventing Practice Slumps
07:28 Analyzing Financial Trends in Your Practice
10:57 The Importance of Strong Systems and Metrics
15:03 Hiring Strategies During Slow Periods
18:27 Planning for Financial Downturns in Small Business
19:59 Income Generating Activities for Practice Owners
22:18 Success Stories and Practical Tips
25:25 The Importance of Knowing Your Numbers

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If you've ever felt overwhelmed by Google's ever-changing algorithm and wondered what it really takes to get your website to rank in 2025, this episode is a must-listen. Daniel Fava breaks down the major shifts in SEO that started back in 2024 and what they actually mean for private practice owners.

Spoiler: it’s not about keyword stuffing anymore — it’s about creating meaningful, experience-driven content that connects with your ideal clients. From demystifying Google’s EEAT guidelines to explaining how engagement metrics and user experience now impact your rankings, Daniel makes SEO approachable and even (dare we say) exciting.

Whether you're a DIY marketer or working with an SEO pro, this conversation will change the way you think about your website — and your content strategy. Ready to future-proof your practice online? Let’s dive in.

09:10 Understanding Google's EEAT Update
12:13 The Importance of Blogging and User Experience
20:42 Redesigning Websites for Better User Experience
24:08 The Importance of Blogging for SEO
27:27 Leveraging AI for Content Creation
28:41 Consistency in Blogging and Its Long-Term Benefits
30:34 Challenges from Corporate Mental Health Platforms
35:59 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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What happens when a mental health professional with a passion for SEO gets the chance to take over the very company that launched her marketing journey? In this episode, we’re diving into Mary’s incredible leap from behind-the-scenes SEO specialist to bold business owner — and how she’s now leading a mission-driven team that puts empathy and ethics at the heart of digital strategy. From honoring her mentor’s legacy to helping therapists show up authentically online, Mary’s story is one of purpose, perfect timing, and the power of trusting your gut. You won’t want to miss this one.

03:02 Importance of SEO for Therapists
08:22 Social Media Strategies for Private Practices
16:26 SEO Basics and Its Impact on Your Practice
18:29 Optimizing Your Website for SEO
19:51 The Role of AI in Finding Your Practice
20:37 Social Media Strategies for Therapists
22:18 Creating Personal and Engaging Content
26:34 The Importance of Consistency in Marketing
29:34 Leveraging Google My Business for SEO

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In this episode of the Wise Practice Podcast, I’m joined by Kym, a true pioneer in the world of traveling therapists. She’s the real deal—honest, experienced, and incredibly generous with her wisdom. Kym opens up about what it actually takes to live abroad while running a successful online therapy practice. From navigating licensing laws and liability insurance to choosing the right zip code for attracting private-pay clients and dealing with EHR limitations overseas, she doesn’t sugarcoat a thing.

She’s made the mistakes, learned the lessons, and now she’s helping other therapists do it smarter, especially through her active Facebook community where people show up daily with questions like, “How do I move to Albania?” or “Can I bill insurance if I’m outside the U.S.?”

Whether you’re dreaming of running your practice from the beach or just want more freedom from the four walls of a traditional office, this episode is full of real talk and actionable insight. Kym proves that with the right planning, support, and mindset, you can take your practice beyond borders—without losing your mind or your license.

06:38 Kym Tolson's Journey to a Mobile Practice
14:26 Marketing Tips for Remote Therapists
17:50 Navigating Insurance for Traveling Therapists
18:34 Challenges with Specific Insurance Providers
22:27 Tips for International Travel and Practice
25:44 Multi-State Private Practice Expansion
28:24 Free Resources and Courses for Therapists
31:32 Final Thoughts and Contact Information

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In this powerful conversation, Pastor Payton flips the script on how mental health professionals engage with spirituality. For clients whose faith is central to their identity, it’s not just relevant — it’s essential. Payton makes the case that integrating spiritual life into clinical work isn’t just respectful; it’s transformative.

He shares what he looks for in a trusted therapist, how counselors can build real relationships with local churches (without feeling like they’re pitching a service), and why speaking the language of faith can open doors to deeper healing and collaboration. Whether you're a clinician working in Christian spaces or someone curious about bridging the sacred and the clinical, this episode is a must-listen.

It’s not about marketing. It’s about ministry. And it starts with showing up.

12:34 The Challenge of Reaching Out
14:31 Dealing with Resistant Pastors
17:29 Mental Health Trends in the Church
20:11 How Therapists Can Support Pastors
23:49 Follow-Up is Crucial
30:10 Connecting with the Right Counselor
31:13 Sensitivity to Client Needs

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When Laura first stepped into couples counseling, she didn’t expect one of her biggest challenges to come from outside the therapy room — but it did. Behind the scenes, insurance systems built for individual treatment forced her into an impossible ethical bind: label one partner as “the problem,” assign a mental health diagnosis that didn’t fit, and document intimate relational healing through the cold lens of medical necessity.

It felt wrong. It was wrong.

And Laura realized: playing by the insurance industry’s rules wasn’t just exhausting — it was setting the work up to fail.

What followed was a bold, mindset-shifting journey from moral tension to empowered service, from burnout to abundance. Laura’s story offers a powerful roadmap for therapists who know, deep down, that there’s a better way to serve — with integrity, freedom, and impact.

Ready to see what’s possible when you step outside the system?

04:21 Laura's Journey to Private Pay
04:53 Challenges with Insurance Panels
06:13 Transitioning to Private Pay
14:10 Mindset and Money in Private Practice
23:09 Balancing Faith and Business
25:16 Transitioning to Private Pay
26:48 Marketing and Client Communication
28:23 Client Retention and Success Stories
29:57 Educating Clients on Private Pay
37:03 Masterclass Announcement and Details
41:26 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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In this eye-opening episode, trademark attorney Joey Vitale busts the biggest myths about brand protection—and reveals the costly mistake too many entrepreneurs make: skipping trademarks until it’s too late.

Joey breaks down the difference between your backstage business (your LLC) and your onstage identity (your brand)—and why without a trademark, someone else could legally force you to rebrand... even if you’ve been around for years.

From Google searches that offer false confidence to names that are legally “too generic” to own, Joey explains it all with clarity, humor, and real talk. Plus, he shares how to play both defense and offense with your brand—so you can build boldly and protect what’s yours.

If you’re building a brand you love, this episode is a must-listen.

07:11 The Truth About Trademarks: Joey’s Take on What Really Matters
12:11 Rookie Moves: The Most Common (and Costly) Trademark Mistakes
31:01 Real-World Trademark Wins, Fails, and Lessons Learned
36:34 Your Next Steps: How to Protect Your Brand with Confidence

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