00:25 - Welcome Motzko

03:22 - Marfa recap

07:50 - Connecting and consolidating relationships

11:28 - Marfa highlights

13:50 - Fallout from the Raoul clip

19:16 - Navigating the social media landscape

26:00 - Motzko's collecting thesis

31:41 - Creating an aesthetic experience while scrolling

34:50 - Outside perspectives and judgments

36:37 - Silicon Valley's silence around NFTs

38:58 - Collecting as a means of self-expression

40:25 - Motzko's artist picks: Rafaël and Lorna

44:55 - New Three.js work and the browser as a medium

50:16 - A question of context and framing

51:30 - Exploring Quine by Larva Labs

57:16 - $PNKSTR

01:03:24 - fxhash opens back up

01:05:22 - Is VVV's continued hype sustainable

01:08:15 - The strength of the Avant Gay community

01:10:55 - The difference in culture across chains

01:15:22 - The issue with aesthetic over saturation

01:16:17 - Tezos and artist collaboration

01:18:18 - William Mapan and Superpositions

01:26:30 - Ivan and Sam's departure from Verse

01:33:44 - Verse rundown

https://motzko.net

motzko: https://x.com/motzko

Lorna Mills: https://x.com/lm_netwebs

Rafaël Rozendaal: https://x.com/newrafael

Samsy: https://x.com/samsyyyy

William Mapan: https://x.com/williamapan

Larva Labs: https://x.com/larvalabs

00:35 - Welcome Redbeard

02:58 - Discovering digital art

05:03 - Too many sellers, not enough buyers

09:13 - Debunking the cabal

15:13 - Power laws, high prices and rising tides

18:42 - Building relationships and community

22:30 - Uplifting voices and building on history

23:17 - The importance of open-minded participation

25:55 - Being part of a movement and making an impact

29:08 - Zoom out and refine your focus

31:28 - Collaborate more, compete less

32:44 - Inside the Whitney selection committee

35:05 - Performance art belongs on-chain

36:03 - Institutions help, community leads

40:35 - Expanding the community beyond X

42:38 - Showcasing the human side of the artists

46:20 - Looking past the tweets and connecting in person

50:15 - The value of innovation

Redbeard: https://x.com/redbeardnft

00:40 - Welcome Hilde Lynn Helphenstein

07:20 - Conservatism in the art world

10:02 - Early exposure to different cultures

11:54 - Conceptual Art, new genres and developing a practice

14:01 - The art world as a performance

16:54 - From Hooters to Art Basel

18:09 - The birth of Jerry Gogosian

22:24 - Problems built into the business model

24:43 - AI and the potential valuelessness of art

30:03 - How social media has changed the art world

34:15 - The myth of inclusivity

39:20 - The pandemic, cultural shifts and NFTs

44:36 - The power of physicality in art

48:45 - We are all memes

50:40 - The power of the network and connection

56:00 - Normalised extremes and impostor syndrome

01:02:10 - The cost of opening up to an audience

01:14:50 - Moving forward and thinking about the future

01:25:10 - Gozo and the importance of texture in digital art

01:30:37 - A missing historical context in NFTs

01:38:30 - What art will look like in the future

01:43:05 - Technophobia and protectionism in the traditional art world

01:49:20 - Cancel culture, polarisation and satire

01:55:52 - A future NFT true believer

Jerry Gogosian Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jerrygogosian

Jerry Gogosian X: https://x.com/jerrygogosian

Gozo - an improbable thread: https://verse.works/series/an-improbable-thread-by-gozo

Gozo: https://x.com/uncertaingaze