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In this episode, Ron and Kristin don’t just explore leadership—they dive headfirst into the world of power, influence, and how a few mic’d-up men with cigars and bourbon reshaped American politics.

Known as the Pod Bros, these influential podcasters became a powerful force during the last presidential election cycle. They interviewed nearly every major conservative candidate, including Donald Trump, J.D. Vance, and several individuals now rumored to be in the future Trump cabinet.

Their massive audiences took notice when most major Democratic candidates declined to appear—except for Bernie Sanders. The absence was loud, and the impact undeniable.

This episode wraps up with key leadership takeaways from this modern media phenomenon. Don’t miss this compelling and timely conversation.

Sources: 4Ward Operations; https://www.ft.com/content/9f2be125-ba1b-4062-ab2d-4b2977db20b0 presentation: https://www.reddit.com/r/FriendsofthePod/comments/1jlez1p/article_about_the_pod_bros/

Co-hosts: Ron Ward and Kristin Sokoloff
Sponsor: 4Ward Operations
Producer: Stephen Ridley
Facebook Group Administrator: Cassy Roop

Where leadership meets entertainment! This weekly podcast takes both a humorous and intense look at leadership through impactful stories, answers to listener questions, and breakdowns of dirty lessons from Ron's best selling book, "The Dirty Side of Leadership".

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In this episode, Ron and Kristin define toxic positivity and the fallout of fake morale. They provide information and solutions to combat this issue and they promote authenticity when dealing with issues at work. Of course, there will be humor and relevant stories to enhance the conversation. Don't miss this important discussion.

Sources: ChatGpt; https://www.shrm.org/executive-network/insights/preventing-toxic-positivity-in-workplace

Co-hosts: Ron Ward and Kristin Sokoloff
Sponsor: 4Ward Operations
Producer: Stephen Ridley
Facebook Group Administrator: Cassy Roop

Where leadership meets entertainment! This weekly podcast takes both a humorous and intense look at leadership through impactful stories, answers to listener questions, and breakdowns of dirty lessons from Ron's best selling book, "The Dirty Side of Leadership".

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In this landmark episode, The Dirty Side of Leadership welcomes its very first guest—and we came out swinging. January Donovan, founder and CEO of The Woman School, joins Ron and Kristin to unpack why today’s women are emotionally burned out, mentally depleted, and spiritually disoriented.

We’re talking about the high cost of removing skill-based training from womanhood, how feminism reshaped our schools and families, and why “empowerment” without practical skills is leaving women emptier than ever.

January brings two decades of experience training women across the globe and delivers a clear message: The solution isn’t more hustle—it’s wholeness.

If you’ve ever asked:

• Why do women feel so overwhelmed?
• Are we raising beta males by accident?
• What’s missing in modern womanhood?
  …this episode is for you.

Learn More & Connect with January:

Website: https://l.instagram.com/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fnewwomanmasterclass.com%2Fksok&e=AT2o8NVD6WsI63DIViFYIyhK-Vm8QVJyjdR8lxFXOGHfhlg7iMbODjeHzH55zIOTt-STGnxSEKEXo7nh1ZECgLruP4T8_vdFde4A3PREND2_yTMQujvTv5bJHfgp

Follow January on Instagram: @thewomanschool

Book your free strategy call and start your 14-day trial of The New Woman Masterclass today.

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Co-hosts: Ron Ward and Kristin Sokoloff
Sponsor: 4Ward Operations
Producer: Stephen Ridley
Facebook Group Administrator: Cassy Roop

Where leadership meets entertainment! This weekly podcast takes both a humorous and intense look at leadership through impactful stories, answers to listener questions, and breakdowns of dirty lessons from Ron's best selling book, "The Dirty Side of Leadership".

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In this episode, Ron and Kristin explore the intricate workings of our brain and the chemicals that can enhance leadership skills. They discuss dopamine, oxytocin, endorphins, testosterone and other aspects of the brain. This episode not only provides information on how to access these chemicals, it provides you with tools to administer these chemicals to build and strengthen rapport among family, friends and co-workers/staff. Don't miss this "game-changing" episode!

Sources: 4Ward Operations presentation: Master Class in Communication; Neurotransmitters - https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/22513-neurotransmitters; Dopamine - https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/22581-dopamine

Co-hosts: Ron Ward and Kristin Sokoloff
Sponsor: 4Ward Operations
Producer: Stephen Ridley
Facebook Group Administrator: Cassy Roop

Where leadership meets entertainment! This weekly podcast takes both a humorous and intense look at leadership through impactful stories, answers to listener questions, and breakdowns of dirty lessons from Ron's best selling book, "The Dirty Side of Leadership".

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In this episode, Ron and Kristin discuss the downfall of integrity in American culture. They discuss the "psychology of a sellout" and provide some reasons why people do it, such as self-preservation instincts and moral licensing. They cover some recent integrity and cultural collapses; and finally, they discuss the "9 Hidden Powers of Integrity". If you're into psychology and brain functionality coupled with human behavior, don't miss this important episode!

Sources: Sources: chatGpt; https://markjosephministries.com/2020/09/09/whats-happened-to-integrity-in-our-society/; https://www.quora.com/Is-it-just-me-or-is-there-a-serious-decline-in-integrity-and-honesty-among-people-these-days

Co-hosts: Ron Ward and Kristin Sokoloff
Sponsor: 4Ward Operations
Producer: Stephen Ridley
Facebook Group Administrator: Cassy Roop

Where leadership meets entertainment! This weekly podcast takes both a humorous and intense look at leadership through impactful stories, answers to listener questions, and breakdowns of dirty lessons from Ron's best selling book, "The Dirty Side of Leadership".

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In this throwback episode, we're going back to the very first episode where Ron and Kristin discuss different types of horrible bosses and the lessons you can learn on how NOT to lead.

Where leadership meets entertainment! This weekly podcast takes both a humorous and intense look at leadership through impactful stories, answers to listener questions, and breakdowns of dirty lessons from Ron's best selling book, "The Dirty Side of Leadership".

Co-hosts: Ron Ward and Kristin Sokoloff
Sponsor: 4Ward Operations
Producer: Stephen Ridley
Facebook Group Administrator: Cassy Roop

Where leadership meets entertainment! This weekly podcast takes both a humorous and intense look at leadership through impactful stories, answers to listener questions, and breakdowns of dirty lessons from Ron's best selling book, "The Dirty Side of Leadership".

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In this episode, Ron and Kristin break down leadership lessons from Biden’s cognitive decline. They not only discuss the obvious signs of his downward spiral, they provide sources from books and media that further breakdown the decline, the coverup and the damage this has caused to the American public. Don't miss this important episode!

Sources: Book: Original Sin Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson; Book: “Fight” by Jonathan Allen and Amie Parnes; Book: "Uncharted" by Chris Whipple; ChatGpt-

Co-hosts: Ron Ward and Kristin Sokoloff
Sponsor: 4Ward Operations
Producer: Stephen Ridley
Facebook Group Administrator: Cassy Roop

Where leadership meets entertainment! This weekly podcast takes both a humorous and intense look at leadership through impactful stories, answers to listener questions, and breakdowns of dirty lessons from Ron's best selling book, "The Dirty Side of Leadership".

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In this episode, Ron and Kristin reveal that Alzheimer’s is the most feared disease in the United States—more than cancer, more than heart attacks. A 2024 survey by the Alzheimer’s Association found that over 66% of Americans fear memory loss more than death. As of 2025, over 7.2 million Americans aged 65 and older are living with Alzheimer’s. That’s one in nine. And by 2050? Nearly 13 million. Behind every diagnosis is a caregiver. In 2024, over 19 billion unpaid hours of care were provided in the U.S.—worth more than $400 billion.

Ron and Kristin not only consider cause and effect, they provide viable solutions to keep your brain healthy.

Join Ron and Kristin as they break down leadership on this important topic.

Don't miss this important episode!

Sources: Book: Chat Gpt; https://www.alz.org/; https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/alzheimers-disease/symptoms-causes/syc-20350447

Co-hosts: Ron Ward and Kristin Sokoloff
Sponsor: 4Ward Operations
Producer: Stephen Ridley
Facebook Group Administrator: Cassy Roop

Where leadership meets entertainment! This weekly podcast takes both a humorous and intense look at leadership through impactful stories, answers to listener questions, and breakdowns of dirty lessons from Ron's best selling book, "The Dirty Side of Leadership".

Connect with us at 4wardoperations.com

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