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In this episode, Ron and Kristin don’t just explore leadership—they dive headfirst into the world of power, influence, and how a few mic’d-up men with cigars and bourbon reshaped American politics.

Known as the Pod Bros, these influential podcasters became a powerful force during the last presidential election cycle. They interviewed nearly every major conservative candidate, including Donald Trump, J.D. Vance, and several individuals now rumored to be in the future Trump cabinet.

Their massive audiences took notice when most major Democratic candidates declined to appear—except for Bernie Sanders. The absence was loud, and the impact undeniable.

This episode wraps up with key leadership takeaways from this modern media phenomenon. Don’t miss this compelling and timely conversation.

Sources: 4Ward Operations; https://www.ft.com/content/9f2be125-ba1b-4062-ab2d-4b2977db20b0 presentation: https://www.reddit.com/r/FriendsofthePod/comments/1jlez1p/article_about_the_pod_bros/

Co-hosts: Ron Ward and Kristin Sokoloff
Sponsor: 4Ward Operations
Producer: Stephen Ridley
Facebook Group Administrator: Cassy Roop

Where leadership meets entertainment! This weekly podcast takes both a humorous and intense look at leadership through impactful stories, answers to listener questions, and breakdowns of dirty lessons from Ron's best selling book, "The Dirty Side of Leadership".

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In this episode, Ron and Kristin define toxic positivity and the fallout of fake morale. They provide information and solutions to combat this issue and they promote authenticity when dealing with issues at work. Of course, there will be humor and relevant stories to enhance the conversation. Don't miss this important discussion.

Sources: ChatGpt; https://www.shrm.org/executive-network/insights/preventing-toxic-positivity-in-workplace

Co-hosts: Ron Ward and Kristin Sokoloff
Sponsor: 4Ward Operations
Producer: Stephen Ridley
Facebook Group Administrator: Cassy Roop

Where leadership meets entertainment! This weekly podcast takes both a humorous and intense look at leadership through impactful stories, answers to listener questions, and breakdowns of dirty lessons from Ron's best selling book, "The Dirty Side of Leadership".

Connect with us at 4wardoperations.com

Connect with us at 4wardoperations.com

Send us a text

In this landmark episode, The Dirty Side of Leadership welcomes its very first guest—and we came out swinging. January Donovan, founder and CEO of The Woman School, joins Ron and Kristin to unpack why today’s women are emotionally burned out, mentally depleted, and spiritually disoriented.

We’re talking about the high cost of removing skill-based training from womanhood, how feminism reshaped our schools and families, and why “empowerment” without practical skills is leaving women emptier than ever.

January brings two decades of experience training women across the globe and delivers a clear message: The solution isn’t more hustle—it’s wholeness.

If you’ve ever asked:

• Why do women feel so overwhelmed?
• Are we raising beta males by accident?
• What’s missing in modern womanhood?
  …this episode is for you.

Learn More & Connect with January:

Website: https://l.instagram.com/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fnewwomanmasterclass.com%2Fksok&e=AT2o8NVD6WsI63DIViFYIyhK-Vm8QVJyjdR8lxFXOGHfhlg7iMbODjeHzH55zIOTt-STGnxSEKEXo7nh1ZECgLruP4T8_vdFde4A3PREND2_yTMQujvTv5bJHfgp

Follow January on Instagram: @thewomanschool

Book your free strategy call and start your 14-day trial of The New Woman Masterclass today.

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Co-hosts: Ron Ward and Kristin Sokoloff
Sponsor: 4Ward Operations
Producer: Stephen Ridley
Facebook Group Administrator: Cassy Roop

Where leadership meets entertainment! This weekly podcast takes both a humorous and intense look at leadership through impactful stories, answers to listener questions, and breakdowns of dirty lessons from Ron's best selling book, "The Dirty Side of Leadership".

Connect with us at 4wardoperations.com

Connect with us at 4wardoperations.com