If you Google "the American dream" right now, most of what comes back says it is dead. Carol Mathews spent this year proving otherwise. Carol is the founder of Hero Productions in Tulsa, the producer of the feature film Home Run, and one of my favorite human beings, which is saying something after 67 years. She just finished producing Reigniting the American Dream for Governor Kevin Stitt's year as chair of the National Governors Association: 56 interviews from every walk of life, from Mark Cuban and Governor Wes Moore to a woman who walked out of prison and now gives her life to other women. We talk about why the people who built this country were living for something larger than themselves, what makes America different (you can fail here and try again), why our lives are downstream from the stories we take in, and the one thing that decides who makes it: grit. Carol also gives the most practical advice in the episode: know your why, write it down, and ask whether it means something to the version of you at the very end of your life.
Chapters:
0:00 Coming up
0:30 The David Leifeste Show
0:51 Welcome: Carol Mathews
1:28 Home Run, and a year with the National Governors Association
2:49 Getting a pulse on America
3:07 What the documentaries taught David
4:25 The country was their dream
6:30 The nameless people who built it
7:10 Reigniting the American Dream
8:28 It is safe to believe
8:44 Grit, and the fear that Americans are getting soft
10:10 Fifty-six interviews: what the dream means
12:01 Cynt Marshall: from the projects to the NBA
14:10 Nobody overcomes alone
15:10 George Washington leaves Mount Vernon
16:40 What makes America different: you can fail and try again
19:10 Failure is just new information
19:50 The woman who is living the dream
21:10 Mark Cuban's best hug
22:23 Dolly Parton
23:25 Grit is a long game
25:50 How to keep going: know your why
27:40 Hang around people who pull the best out of you
29:00 Our lives are downstream from stories
29:32 Learn to think for yourself
31:40 Allocate your energy like a CEO
32:20 Thank you, Carol
32:45 Until next time
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ABOUT THE GUEST
Carol Mathews is the founder and executive producer of Hero Productions in Tulsa, Oklahoma, with nearly three decades in film and television. She produced the feature film Home Run and the 2026 documentary Reigniting the American Dream for the National Governors Association.
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carolspannmathews/
Hero Productions: https://www.heroproductions.com
ABOUT DAVID
David Leifeste, M.S., L.P.C., is a psychotherapist and executive coach, and the author of The Possibility of You. The David Leifeste Podcast brings the book's message to life: honest conversations about the stories that keep us stuck, and the way back to your true self.
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