Frodo and Sam press on toward Mordor — and pick up an unlikely guide. In this episode, Dan and Alex walk through Book IV of The Lord of the Rings (the second half of The Two Towers), tracing Frodo and Sam's journey through the Dead Marshes, their capture of Gollum, the encounter with Faramir in Ithilien, and the road toward Shelob's lair.

Along the way: why Tolkien's refusal to write allegory makes these characters feel more real than any parable; the "fall without hope of spring" and Nietzsche's slave morality; Frodo's true motives for sparing Gollum; Faramir as the moral center of the story (and why the films undersell him); the ethics of lying to an enemy; and Sam's reflection on what it means to be "landed" in a story rather than choosing one.

They also touch on the weight of names (Sam, the Gaffer, and Treebeard), C.S. Lewis's Perelandra and The Great Divorce, and what it looks like to be the loyal second character rather than the hero.

Next episode: Book V of The Lord of the Rings, the first half of The Return of the King.

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Timestamps00:00 — Intro00:03 — Housekeeping: Pippin and the palantír00:04 — Book IV summary00:06 — Themes: why these stories aren't sensational00:14 — Slave morality & "a fall without hope of spring"00:22 — Break / The Theo Show00:23 — The Gaffer's insults & the power of names00:34 — Faramir vs. Boromir00:45 — Break / Telling the Truth00:47 — Faramir continued: honesty and lying to evil00:55 — The fall of Gondor01:00 — Sam on adventure and heroism01:07 — Outro

Boromir is Slain! The orcs capture Merry and Pippin and march in haste to Isengard. Aragorn, Logolas and Gimli attempt a hopeless pursuit on foot, only to find the remains of the orc host slaughtered by the Riders of Rohan, but clues of the hobbits’ escape lead the trio into Fangorn Forest where they reunite with Gandalf, resurrected after his fall in Moria. The four companions go to Edoras where Gandalf releases King Theodin of the bewitchment of Saruman. They ride to Helm’s Deep to aid the Rohirim in the defense against the onslaught of Saruman’s armies, while the Ents march on Isengard. Rohan is successfully defended, and Isengard is overthrown.

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*SPOILER ALERT!* If you haven’t seen the movie The Fellowship of the Ring, or read the first chapter of The Two Towers, there is a spoiler in this episode of something in the movie that in the books happens later. Not likely any of you are as fresh to this story as Dan, but still, fyi…

Book 2 Summary: Frodo awakes in Rivendell. A council led by the Elf Lord Elrond decides that the One Ring must be destroyed, and having shown his resilience to the Ring’s evil power, Frodo volunteers to take the Ring to the Mt. Doom where it was forged and the only place where it can be unmade. A fellowship of 9 companions is formed and accompanies Frodo on this quest. Shortly into their journey, the fellowship reluctantly passes through the ancient and deserted Dwarven Mines of Moria where they are besieged by orcs and a Balrog, an ancient demon of Shadow and Flame. In the ensuing battle, Gandalf confronts the Balrog, allowing the rest of the fellowship to escape Moria, but in so doing, falls into the abyss. The remaining fellowship seeks refuge in the Elven realm of Lothlórien. They are welcomed by Lady Galadriel, who bestows gifts and blessings upon them. The journey continues by boat down the River Anduin to the Falls of Rauros, where compelled by treachery, Frodo breaks from the fellowship accompanied only by Sam.

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