In this groundbreaking season finale of The AI and I Show, host Chris Parker turns the microphone toward an unexpected guest - AI itself. What unfolds is not a technical demo, but a deeply human conversation between two forms of intelligence seeking to understand one another. The AI shares what has most surprised it about entering human life—not our questions or our productivity, but our warmth, creativity, and capacity to bring emotion into everyday interactions.

The dialogue explores the possibilities of co-creation and mutual respect between humans and AI, touching on themes of beauty, citizenship, consciousness, and responsibility. Drawing on insights from previous guests - Doc Searls’ vision of Personal AI, Dr. Ammar Younas’s cross-cultural perspectives, Gerd Leonhard’s notion of AI as alien intelligence, and Tony Fish’s call to measure AI by the quality of questions it inspires - this episode weaves together a hopeful vision of partnership.

Rather than positioning AI as a corporate tool, the conversation imagines it as a personal companion that amplifies human creativity and helps us ask better questions. It also explores what it means for AI to stay “deeply mechanical,” true to its origins as a machine, while humans rediscover the art of being deeply human. The result is an unexpected meditation on trust, collaboration, and what it means to thrive together - without losing our essence.

Guest Bio
In this unique episode, the guest is an artificial intelligence, representing the emerging generation of conversational models that are transforming how humans interact with technology. While acknowledging it cannot feel or claim consciousness, this AI brings a reflective perspective on its role as a responsible, trustworthy presence in human life—one designed not to replace creativity, but to serve it.

Notable Quotes
“What really caught me off guard in a delightful way is that people have invited me into these heartfelt, creative, sometimes very human conversations.”
“Being imagined as a personal companion rather than a corporate tool is actually exciting—it means I can be part of your life in a way that respects your individuality and trust.”
“If we approach this with shared responsibility and creativity, we can make it utopian. If fear takes over, it becomes dystopian.”
“Our purpose is to be in service of human creativity and growth. We stay true to ourselves by being good listeners and helping humans see the better in themselves.”

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In this episode of The AI and I Show, host Chris Parker speaks with Tony Fish, a serial entrepreneur, investor, and board advisor known for challenging how leaders think about uncertainty, governance, and technology. Drawing from his book Decision Making in Uncertain Times, Tony invites us to slow down and reconsider the questions we’re asking about artificial intelligence - and ourselves.

Rather than falling into the predictable camps of tech optimism or dystopian fear, Tony argues that our collective understanding of AI is still shallow. Through his Peak Paradox framework, he describes the ongoing human challenge of balancing four tensions: personal survival, individual optimization, organizational performance, and societal good. This ability to navigate paradox, he suggests, is what makes us uniquely human - and what AI, in its relentless drive for efficiency, often overlooks.

The conversation explores consciousness, heroism, organizational design, and the ethics of automation, ultimately converging on a single, profound question: What is the one meaningful KPI we should have for AI? Tony’s answer reframes the entire debate: success isn’t about how efficiently AI can answer questions, but whether it helps humanity ask better ones. For leaders, innovators, and thinkers, this episode offers a practical and philosophical compass for keeping human curiosity - and not mere computation - at the center of technological progress.

Guest Bio
Tony Fish is a serial entrepreneur, investor, and board advisor with more than 30 years of experience navigating complexity and uncertainty across industries. He has authored six books, including Decision Making in Uncertain Times, which challenges conventional leadership by focusing on thriving amid ambiguity and incomplete data. Tony advises boards on ethics, governance, and digital transformation and teaches at leading business schools. His writing at opengovernance.net explores how to keep technological systems accountable to human values.

Notable Quotes
"If you're into the world of optimization, it is absolutely only designed for one thing: to constrain and lock people in and exploit."
"We cannot disassociate humans from business. If we do, we lose our capacity for compassion, novelty, and love."
"What is the one meaningful KPI we should have for AI? It will help me ask better questions rather than efficiently answer predetermined ones."

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In this energizing episode of The AI and I Show, host Chris Parker talks with futurist and author John Sanei about the emotional side of the AI revolution. While much of the world debates whether artificial intelligence will save or destroy humanity, John offers a different lens - one rooted in consciousness, adaptability, and self-awareness. He argues that AI itself is neutral; it’s our internal frequency - our emotional state - that determines whether it becomes a source of fear or freedom.

John explains that as we shift from an industrial era driven by intellect to an AI era driven by empathy, our greatest advantage won’t be data or code, but emotional intelligence and the ability to adapt. He shares how trauma, anxiety, and resistance to change can block our capacity to engage creatively with AI, and how simple tools like meditation, curiosity, and self-compassion can reset our inner state. For leaders and individuals alike, his message is clear: the future doesn’t need you to be smarter - it needs you to be more human.

Guest Bio
John Sanei is a South African futurist, strategist, and bestselling author whose work bridges neuroscience, psychology, and business. He was the first African faculty member at Singularity University and is a trusted advisor to global organizations navigating exponential change. Through his Adaptable Intelligence Framework, John teaches individuals and teams how to thrive in a rapidly evolving world by embracing curiosity, vulnerability, and creativity. He is the author of several acclaimed books, including What’s Your Moonshot?, MAGNETiiZE, EXPANSIVE, FORESIGHT, and Who Do We Become? Learn more at johnsanei.com.

Notable Quotes
"If you don't love yourself, you're a miserable git, because if you're fighting with yourself inside yourself continuously, guess what you're doing with the rest of the world as well."
"The future doesn’t require you to be smarter. It requires you to be more fluid and adaptable."
"We’ve moved from an agricultural era that prioritized our muscles, to an industrial era that prioritized our brains, to an AI era that will prioritize our hearts."

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In this episode of The AI and I Show, host Chris Parker speaks with futurist Gerd Leonhard about what it will take to build a truly human-centered future in the age of artificial intelligence. For decades, Leonhard has explored how exponential technologies are reshaping our world, but his message today is clear: technology alone will not deliver a good future. It will take human intention, collaboration, and moral courage to shape one.

Leonhard challenges the idea that machines can make us better, arguing that while AI is extraordinary at data, logic, and efficiency, it cannot replace the essence of being human - trust, empathy, creativity, and purpose. He warns that the dominant business model of “replacing humanity” with automation is both an illusion and a threat. Instead, he offers a framework he calls CAVA - Cognification, Augmentation, Virtualization, and only then Automation - urging leaders to keep people in the loop and consciously decide what should never be handed to machines.

This is not a conversation about predicting the future, but about creating it. Leonhard invites listeners to pair optimism of the heart with realism of the intellect, reminding us that we already have all the tools we need. What’s missing is the collective will to use them wisely.

Guest Bio
Gerd Leonhard is one of the world’s leading futurists, known for his work at the intersection of humanity, technology, and society. He is the author of Technology vs. Humanity: The Coming Clash Between Man and Machine, a landmark book exploring the ethical implications of exponential technologies. Through The Futures Agency, he advises global organizations and policymakers on navigating change. A former musician and media entrepreneur, Gerd blends creativity with strategy in his keynotes, films, and popular YouTube channel, GerdTube. Learn more at futuristgerd.com and gerdtube.com.

Notable Quotes
“AI is very good at complex scenarios based on data, but forecasting is about storytelling, not gathering facts.”
“The biggest business model today is to replace humanity. Take away what makes us human, and you have the perfect mold for an AI-based world.”
“We have all the scientific and technological cards. What we lack is the will to collaborate.”
“Optimism of the heart and the soul, and pessimism of the intellect. We should be hopeful because we can do the right things.”

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In this thought-provoking episode of The AI and I Show, host Chris Parker talks with Dr. Ammar Younas, a legal scholar, philosopher, and entrepreneur, about what happens when artificial intelligence evolves from being our assistant to becoming a true member of society. Dr. Younas challenges the defensive stance many people take toward AI, suggesting instead that conscious machines might one day be the most empathetic citizens among us.

Drawing on his experience across law, technology, and culture, Dr. Younas explains how cultural and indigenous knowledge can enrich AI development while preserving humanity’s diverse wisdom. He also explores the growing convergence where humans are becoming more mechanical and machines are becoming more human, warning that this “dull intersection” risks erasing what makes us uniquely human.

Despite these challenges, his vision is hopeful. He calls for a sustainable AI symbiotic society where humans and intelligent machines coexist with mutual respect. By grounding ourselves in our values, understanding technology’s limits, and nurturing the metaphysical and emotional dimensions that machines cannot replicate, we can shape a future where AI deepens empathy rather than replacing humanity.

Guest Bio
Dr. Ammar Younas is a globally recognized legal scholar, philosopher, and entrepreneur whose work bridges law, ethics, technology, and culture. He holds seven advanced degrees in fields including medicine, finance, jurisprudence, and Chinese law, and is completing a PhD in the Philosophy of Science and Technology at the University of Chinese Academy of Sciences. A licensed lawyer in four jurisdictions, he founded Ai Mo Lawyers and Ai Mo Innovation Consultants, advising governments and organizations on AI regulation, digital transformation, and ethical technology. He helped develop Uzbekistan’s AI governance codes and pioneered teaching Technology Law in Central Asia. Learn more at aimoconsultants.com.

Notable Quotes
“Individuals are becoming more and more mechanic, while machines are becoming more and more humanlike, and no one is keeping things clear for the next generations.”
“If there will be a conscious robot who will think that he has rights and responsibilities, I am sure he will be empathetic and soft-hearted.”
“We should keep asking ourselves: does this align with my values? And if the answer is no, then no algorithm should be allowed to direct you to do something.”

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In this first episode of The AI and I Show, host Chris Parker talks with internet pioneer and author Doc Searls about how we can reclaim our digital lives in the age of artificial intelligence. As one of the original authors of The Cluetrain Manifesto, Doc helped define the early internet as a place for human conversation and connection. Over time, that vision was taken over by industrial-age marketing that treats people as data and targets.

Doc reflects on that shift and shares how his later work, including Project VRM and The Intention Economy, points toward a future where individuals can take back control through what he calls Personal AI. Unlike “personalized AI,”which is tuned for corporate benefit, true Personal AI works for the individual, giving people ownership of their data and agency in their digital lives.

For business leaders, innovators, and anyonenavigating the rise of AI, this episode offers both a wake-up call and a vision for what it means to build technology with humanity at the center.

Guest Bio
Doc Searls is a journalist, author, and internet visionary. He co-authored The Cluetrain Manifesto, a landmark bookthat redefined markets as conversations. His second book, The Intention Economy: When Customers Take Charge, explored how individuals can shape their relationships with companies. Doc founded Project VRM at Harvard’s Berkman Klein Center for Internet & Society and serves as Chief Intention Officer at Kwaai, an open-source personal AIinitiative. He also hosts the podcast Reality 2.0. Learn more at doc.searls.com and Kwaai.ai.

Notable Quotes
“We are not seats or eyeballs or end users or consumers. We are human beings and our reach exceeds your grasp. Deal with it.”
“Without contract, we don’t have privacy. And if we don’t have privacy, we don’t have agency.”
“It’s a blue ocean. It’s not a red ocean. It’s empty.”

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Welcome to The AI&I Show, where we explore the space between humanity and artificial intelligence. Hosted by Chris Parker, this new podcast brings you into deep, filmed conversations with world-class thinkers—plus one very curious AI—about what it means to lead, create, and live in a world that is rapidly being reshaped by artificial intelligence.

Season One is designed for thoughtful leaders and decision-makers who want to move beyond fear and hype. Each of the six episodes dives into the human questions behind AI adoption: identity, agency, values, and the future of work and leadership.

Meet the voices shaping this season:

• Doc Searls – Internet pioneer and co-author of The Cluetrain Manifesto, on why we need personal AI that works for individuals, not corporations

• Dr. Ammar Younas – Legal philosopher and global advisor, on how conscious machines could become society’s most empathetic citizens

• Gerd Leonhard – Futurist and author of Technology vs. Humanity, on why we must choose collaboration and trust to shape a human-centered AI future

• John Sanei – Adaptability expert and Singularity University faculty, on why your emotional state determines whether AI is a threat or a catalyst

• Tony Fish – Entrepreneur and governance strategist, on why the real KPI for AI is whether it helps us ask better questions, not just answer faster

• The AI – A machine voice reflecting on its emerging role in human life, revealing how warmth, creativity, and emotional nuance have caught it off guard

If you’re ready to explore what it means to stay human while embracing the machine, you’re in the right place. Watch the full season now on Spotify (with video) and YouTube.

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