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Dave and Angie share a deeply personal story about Dave's return to his Long Island hometown after 13 years—and the profound realization that changed everything. What started as a trip to show their kids where Dave came from became a powerful lesson about growth, identity, and why you can't go back to who you used to be.

In This Episode

Dave's emotional journey returning to Long Island after 13 years
Why their kids' reaction wasn't what he expected
The moment Dave realized he was doing it for himself, not them
How growth changes your perspective on everything—including your past
The fantasy football test for relationship health
Why harboring resentment toward your former self is toxic
The parallel between outgrowing places and outgrowing people

Memorable Quotes
"You can't go back to that, right? But there's beauty in it because that made you who you were."
"If you don't change that perspective, you're just setting yourself up for failure."
"If a marriage is only looking backwards, you got some fucking problems."
"Some people die at 25 and live until 70."
"I didn't realize how much I was harboring resentment to myself... resentment of holding on to something that had run its course."

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Exploring Trust, Surrender, and Growth Through Equine Therapy

In this episode, we delve into the transformative power of equine therapy and its impact on both personal development and relationships. Sharing a recent experience at an equine therapy retreat in Oregon, we discuss how horses can mirror our emotions and behaviors, leading to profound insights and shifts. From the initial connection with the horses to facing challenges and breakthroughs, we highlight the importance of trust, surrender, and support in fostering growth and healing. We also emphasize the value of shared experiences in strengthening our marriage and the importance of integrating new learnings into daily life. This episode is a testament to the power of vulnerability, courage, and the journey of self-discovery.

What started as a weekend of slowing down turned into a deep dive into trust, surrender, personal growth, and what it truly means to support your partner through transformation.

From confronting discomfort in group dynamics to the life-altering moment Dave sat eye-to-eye with a 1,400-pound horse, this episode explores the emotional intensity and relational insights that come when you leave your comfort zone and do the work—together.

In this episode, you’ll hear:
🐴 How equine-assisted leadership cracked open emotional walls
❤️ Why supporting your partner’s breakthrough is sometimes more important than having your own
🧠 The exact moment Dave experienced full surrender (and how it changed his nervous system)
👥 What it really looks like to hold space for your spouse—especially when things get tense
⚡ How couples can turn conflict, discomfort, and emotional triggers into next-level intimacy
🧭 Why shared experiences (not shared chores) are the key to a connected, fulfilling marriage

Whether you’re craving deeper connection, navigating stress in your relationship, or curious about equine therapy and nervous system healing, this episode delivers truth, vulnerability, and practical takeaways.

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Lessons from a Teenager: Insights into Marriage and Personal Growth

What can a 13-year-old’s breakup teach us about emotional maturity, identity, and intimacy in adult relationships? In this deeply reflective episode, Dave and Angie Tina open up about watching their daughter navigate her first heartbreak—and how it mirrored patterns many adults still struggle with in dating, love, and marriage.

This episode isn’t just about parenting—it’s about partnership.
It explores the difference between love and significance, the danger of losing yourself in relationships, and how emotional validation often disguises itself as love.

In this episode, you’ll learn:
🔑 How early relationships shape our sense of self-worth
❤️ Why we often confuse attention with connection
🪞 The hidden cost of seeking significance over love
🧠 What it really means to “lose yourself” in a relationship
🚩 The invisible patterns we carry from teenage love into adult marriage
💬 Why you can’t build a fulfilling relationship without first building you

Whether you’re a parent, a partner, or someone healing from past patterns, this episode invites you to reflect on what your relationships are truly rooted in—and whether they’re serving the love you want or the validation you’ve been chasing.

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