Struggling to get clicks on your YouTube videos or emails? I'm talking with Jake Thomas, the creator of the Creator Hooks newsletter, about the proven formula behind writing irresistible titles. With over 1,000 YouTube titles generating hundreds of millions of views, Jake shares how tapping into the three emotions—curiosity, fear, and desire—can instantly boost engagement. Learn the difference between clickbait and compelling hooks, how to avoid common title mistakes, and how to remix your ideas using formats from high-performing channels. Listen in!

Mentioned in This Episode:

Creator Hooks Newsletter — https://www.creatorhooks.com

Creator Hooks Pro Tool — https://www.creatorhooks.com/pro

Joe Sugarman’s AdWeek Copywriting Handbook — https://www.amazon.com/Adweek-Copywriting-Handbook-Ultimate-Business/dp/0470051248

Age of Propaganda by Anthony Pratkanis and Elliot Aronson — https://www.amazon.com/Age-Propaganda-Everyday-Persuasion-Youre/dp/0805074031

Key Quotes:

"Curiosity, fear, and desire are the three click-worthy emotions behind every successful title."

"Clickbait is only clickbait if you don’t deliver on the promise."

"Your audience already has those fears—you're not planting them, you're guiding them."

"Start with a killer idea and titles become easy."

"Most title mistakes come from trying to be mysterious instead of clear and compelling."

"Be specific. The more qualifiers in your title, the better it performs."

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I've never heard of a real estate investor getting quality seller leads THIS cheap, until now. Ryan from PA has generated 1,200 leads to his Carrot site and closes an average of 5 deals/month by himself in under 30 hours per week. From hand-built billboards on government land to strategic SEO and backlinks via national press, Ryan shares exactly how he outsmarts bigger investors with smaller budgets. You’ll learn how to get press mentions that actually rank, TV exposure that drives inbound calls, and brand trust that closes deals. If you want creative marketing that delivers real ROI, don’t miss this.

Mentioned in this episode:

Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki – https://www.amazon.com/dp/1612681131

Qwoted – https://www.qwoted.com

Muck Rack – https://muckrack.com

SourceBottle – https://www.sourcebottle.com

Acres Land App - https://www.acres.com/

Ryan's PA site - We Buy Houses in Pennsylvania – https://www.webuyhousesinpennsylvania.com

Ryan's NY Site: 607 Home Buyers (New York site) – https://www.607homebuyers.com

Key Quotes:

“We paid $500 once for TV exposure and had calls coming in that week.”

“I think not branding yourself is one of the biggest mistakes you can make.”

“Every billboard, business card—even my t-shirt—uses the same color scheme.”

“SEO's secret sauce? Backlinks from sites you already own and people you know.”

Chapters:

[0:00] TV Exposure for $500

[1:00] Meet Ryan: “Mom & Pop” Approach

[2:55] Building a Trust-Based Brand

[4:08] Branding with Color Consistency

[8:49] Marketing Fails: Facebook Ads

[11:58] Crushing It with Billboards

[21:15] SEO Strategy & Backlink Tactics

[28:55] Turning TV Segments into Leads

[44:28] Final Thoughts + Fire Round

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After managing over $50 million in marketing spend, Mike Hambright reveals the strategies that are driving lead generation success in 2025. Discover why consistency in lead gen is crucial, how inbound channels like SEO and direct mail yield higher ROI, and why cutting marketing budgets can lead to long-term setbacks. Mike emphasizes the importance of targeting distressed sellers and shares how tools like Investor Machine leverage AI and predictive analytics to identify motivated leads. He also discusses the significance of maintaining consistent NAP (Name, Address, Phone number) across online profiles for SEO benefits. Drawing inspiration from the book Who Not How, Mike underscores the value of building the right team to scale your business effectively. For real estate investors aiming to optimize their marketing strategies and achieve sustainable growth, this episode offers actionable insights. Explore more at Investor Fuel. --------------------- Mentioned in This Episode: Investor Fuel A mastermind community for real estate investors seeking growth and scalability. Investor Machine A full-service lead generation platform utilizing AI and predictive analytics to identify motivated sellers. Who Not How by Dan Sullivan and Dr. Benjamin Hardy A book emphasizing the importance of collaboration and finding the right people to achieve business goals. --------------------- Key Quotes: - “If you don't have marketing and you don't have lead gen, you don't have a business.” - “Consistency is what's important. The last thing you should ever cut is lead gen.” - “Inbound lead generation typically has a 200-300% higher return on investment.” - “Mail tends to be the highest profit deals because you can highly target who you send to.” - “SEO leads are even better than pay-per-click because they’ve come to your site and raised their hand.” - “The best list is mailing to the leads you've already generated.” --------------------- Chapters: 00:00 – Intro 00:10 -- The Hidden Cost of Cutting Lead Gen 02:00 – SEO Basics: Importance of NAP Consistency 03:10 – The Necessity of Consistent Marketing Efforts 05:55 – Addressing Budget Cuts in Marketing 07:19 – Determining Effective Marketing Spend 11:33 – Comparing Inbound vs. Outbound Lead Generation 14:22 – Evaluating Profit per Deal Across Channels 17:13 – The Pitfalls of Inconsistent Marketing 20:13 – Retargeting: Staying Top of Mind with Leads 24:39 – Strategies to Lower Marketing Costs --------------------- ➨Our Evergreen Marketing Podcast: https://link.chtbl.com/gkGhAnYN ➨Our CEO, Trevor Mauch's Entrepreneur Freedom Formula Podcast: https://link.chtbl.com/EFF ➨ Facebook Group for Evergreen Marketing: https://www.facebook.com/groups/officialcarrotcommunity ➨Subscribe to our YT channel: https://www.youtube.com/@GetCarrot ➨Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/getcarrot/ ➨Take a demo of Carrot.com: https://carrot.com/choose-demo/ --------------------- About Us: At Carrot, our vision is to inspire & empower real estate professionals to gain true freedom and make a greater impact with their businesses. We do that by providing industry-leading websites, marketing tools & training that help you generate more motivated seller leads than any other platform.

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***Learn more at Carrot.com/shows - Carrot, a 5x Inc 5000 company, with millions of motivated leads generated over 10+ years.