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Love & Philosophy

著者： Beyond Dichotomy | Andrea Hiott
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It's reasonable to care. Exploring philosophical, scientific, technological & poetic spaces beyond either/or bounds. From the heart. Deeply researched. Mostly unscripted.


Hosted by philosopher and cognitive scientist Andrea Hiott. A project with Making Ways. Buy the book Holding Paradox: The Navigational Approach to Mind and Consciousness. And join the Substack.



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  • #90 Paradox as Praxis: Johannes (Yogi) Jaeger & Marcus Neustetter on Art, Science and The ZoNE

    #90 Paradox as Praxis: Johannes (Yogi) Jaeger & Marcus Neustetter on Art, Science and The ZoNE
    2026/07/07
    Send a love messageAndrea, Yogi and Marcus are forming Paradoxis. This is one of the conversations towards that, a Third Space episode of Love & Philosoph. Philosopher Andrea Hiott sits down with artist and facilitator Marcus Neustetter and biologist-philosopher Johannes "Yogi" Jaeger for a wide-ranging conversation about working in the space between art and science. The two have collaborated for about six years as part of The ZoNE, a transdisciplinary collective they run in Vienna alongside artist Bronwyn Lace and curator Başak Şenova.Marcus and Yogi introduce each other, then talk through how their collaboration actually works: not illustration-for-hire, but a genuine co-production where a text and a drawing "wrap themselves around each other" into something neither could have made alone. From there the conversation moves through constraints and "staying alive," productive tension, performance and vulnerability, the trickster, space and context, institutions and gatekeeping, conflict and tolerance, and finally care and love.The episode also introduces the paradox project (referred to in the audio as "Paradoxis"), a shared piece of writing on treating paradox as a practice and performance, and the idea of building offline "circles of trust," a concept Andrea draws from her earlier conversation with Parker Palmer.Read PARADOXIS here.Watch the ZoNE talks here.Link to Zone talks Andrea mentions on the Zone channel with one of her favorite philosophers. And the one with Julian Gough on Egg and Rock.Topics coveredHow Marcus and Yogi met and why they were both looking for a "third space" between art and scienceThe Perspective Studio methodology and collective co-creationConstraints, co-construction and "staying alive" as an organizing principle drawn from evolutionary biologyProductive tension vs. problem-solving; adaptation over optimizationFinite games vs. infinite play, and "serious play"Performance, persona, authenticity and vulnerabilityThe trickster figure and the danger of putting narcissists "in charge"Space, context and embodiment (including a 10-second listening exercise)Institutions, gatekeeping, decolonizing spaces, and the "plastic mushroom in the Pompidou"Conflict, tolerance, "overlapping consensus" and "coherence from difference"Care, love, and the shadow — seeing "the person behind the persona"People, projects and references mentionedLove & Philosophy — Andrea Hiott's podcast and SubstackThe ZoNE — the art/science collective (Lace, Neustetter, Jaeger, Şenova); see also the Makers page and Actions/notation logThe emerging book Beyond the Age of Machines / Expanding Possibilities — the manifesto and chapters referenced throughout, published chapter by chapterPerspective Studio — the workshop/facilitation methodologyAndrea Hiott's Holding Paradox and her Embracing Paradox guideAndrea talking with Parker Palmer — "circles of trust"James Carse — Finite and Infinite GamesHanzi Freinacht — "serious/existential play"Tyson Yunkaporta — Sand Talk (the trickster)Ludwig Wittgenstein — "whereof we cannot speak…"Plato — the allegory of the caveMichael Schmidt-Salomon — the paradox of toleranceJohn Rawls — "overlapping consensus"Carl Sagan — the gas-giant "blobs" thought experimentPatricia Martin — Will the Future Like You?Declan Donnellan and Sophie Fiennes — on performance and theatre (episodes Andrea mentions are forthcoming)Anathi Konjwa and Micca Manganye — performers in Marcus's Johannesburg short-film anecdoteSteven Hobbs — Marcus's longtime South African collaboratorFull intro and notes here.Care is not the opposite of love. It is the very urge of life. 'Caring for what?' is the primary question. That we have a choice about what we care for and how is what makes us human, but it's quite the challenge and responsibility. Let's help one another handle it.The Thrive Careers Podcast My career wasn’t a straight line—it was a series of pivots, survival jobs, and...Listen on: Apple Podcasts Leadership Lessons From The Great BooksUnderstanding great literature is better than trying to read and understand (yet)...Listen on: Apple Podcasts SpotifySupport the showBuy Holding Paradox: The Navigational Approach to Mind and Consciousness by Andrea HiottSign up for Making Ways newsletter and projects.Please rate and review with love. YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, Substack.
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    2 時間 18 分
  • #89 Wrestling is Part of It: Care Ethics, Motherhood, Embodiment & the Meaning in Dependency with Journalist Elissa Strauss

    #89 Wrestling is Part of It: Care Ethics, Motherhood, Embodiment & the Meaning in Dependency with Journalist Elissa Strauss
    2026/06/28
    Send a love messageWhy Caring Isn't Self-Sacrifice with Elissa StraussThe episode of Love and Philosophy introduces a conversation with journalist and essayist Elissa Strauss, author of When You Care: The Unexpected Magic of Caring for Others, framed by the host’s view of care as an embodied, orienting force and “minds as actions.” Strauss distinguishes “caring,” social-status “not caring,” collective/kumbaya care, and “dependency care,” which she calls a “Hotel California” relationship you can’t easily exit; she argues dependency care is fraught, messy, and misunderstood when treated as pure altruism. She describes moving from fast-paced feminist journalism and a policy lens on U.S. caregiving failures (including lack of federal paid leave) to a deeper account of motherhood’s embodied realities, attention, and moments of union and estrangement with children. The discussion links care ethics (Gilligan, Noddings, Kittay) with Iris Murdoch and Simone Weil on unselfing and attention, critiques binary labels that assume we are all always one thing or the other related to ideas like “trad wife,” explores caring-for versus caring-about and the “glass door” separating home from public value, and connects care to economics, interdependence, faith as “wrestling,” and intergenerational “sandwich” caregiving.Elissa's Book When You CareElissa's Substack: https://elissa.substack.com/We All Carethe Navigational Approach to MindHeat by H.D.Care of Things episode mentioned here00:00 Trad Wife Label00:48 Embodied Parenting01:55 Estrangement Moments02:57 Care Philosophy Intro05:25 Care Ethics Primer09:35 Care Economics Value11:55 Poem Heat Reading17:18 Defining Care Buckets19:19 Dependency Care Explained22:20 Writing Career Origins25:53 Motherhood Identity Shift30:32 Beyond Binary Labels33:15 Embodied Early Motherhood33:52 Embodied Early Motherhood36:18 Attention and Listening39:00 Touch Versus Screens42:27 Dependency Care Awakening46:25 Unselfing as Parenting North Star49:54 Estrangement and Return52:39 Faith as Wrestling55:45 Finding Care Ethics01:00:21 Gilligan Noddings Validation01:05:46 Caring For Versus About01:08:16 Shame and the Glass Door01:09:44 Glass Door Feminism01:10:48 Care Work Counts01:13:00 Tradwife Backlash01:15:12 Money Meets Meaning01:16:19 Care Beyond Maintenance01:20:47 Home Everywhere Politics01:25:05 Figure Eight Care01:27:42 Parenting as Process01:31:51 Love Clarity and Illusion01:35:54 Sandwich Caregiving Crunch01:41:08 Wired to Care Together01:43:55 Closing and Where to FindCare EthicsFull intro and notes here.Care is not the opposite of love. It is the very urge of life. 'Caring for what?' is the primary question. That we have a choice about what we care for and how is what makes us human, but it's quite the challenge and responsibility. Let's help one another handle it.The Thrive Careers Podcast My career wasn’t a straight line—it was a series of pivots, survival jobs, and...Listen on: Apple Podcasts Leadership Lessons From The Great BooksUnderstanding great literature is better than trying to read and understand (yet)...Listen on: Apple Podcasts SpotifySupport the showBuy Holding Paradox: The Navigational Approach to Mind and Consciousness by Andrea HiottSign up for Making Ways newsletter and projects.Please rate and review with love. YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, Substack.
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    1 時間 49 分
  • BONUS: Moving From Worry to Wonder with Isabela Granic of Liminal Learning (Guest Podcast: Life Itself with Jacob Kishere)

    BONUS: Moving From Worry to Wonder with Isabela Granic of Liminal Learning (Guest Podcast: Life Itself with Jacob Kishere)
    2026/06/17
    Send a love messageIsabella Granic on Liminal Learning, Neither Nor, and Education for FlourishingAndrea Hiott introduces a guest podcast from Life Itself, Jacob Kishere interviews developmental psychologist Isabella Granic about “education for flourishing” ahead of the Human Transformation in a Time of Metacrisis conference at Harvard. Granic describes shifting from studying anxiety and depression as psychopathology to seeing them as adaptive responses, and focuses on prevention by designing social contexts that support resilience and thriving. She frames learning as liberation from inherited narratives and introduces the “neither nor” framework, developed with philosopher Bryan Kam, which teaches oscillation between conceptual and experiential ways of knowing. Granic explains Liminal Learning, a year-long program for 18–25-year-olds beginning with a wilderness “quest,” followed by a digital hub, practices like appreciative inquiry, and collaborative “heists” to build small real-world projects, moving participants from worry to wonder to world-building. Find info here and below to participate.00:00 Embodied Learning Basics02:16 Podcast Intro and Who Its For06:18 Life Itself Guest Setup07:03 Flourishing and Mental Health12:40 Education as Liberation16:42 Neither Nor Framework21:50 Skills for Metacrisis Times28:39 Wilderness Quest and Stirrings32:34 Heists and World Building37:47 Games and Digital Hub46:52 Tech Shadows and Evidence57:44 Conference Questions and WrapLiminal Learning is in ther final week of welcoming participants for the upcoming UK Quest. Are you or do you know a young adult (18–25) — who’s feeling a bit lost, uncertain, in search of community, a way to explore purpose, or at a crossroads in these times? If so, our yearlong program could provide the support to transform their experience from worry into wonder.🎡 Quests and yearlong programs starting soon🌳 Kicks off in the Forest 🧑‍💻 Then moves to the online HubThe weeklong wilderness Quest is the starting point of Liminal Learning — a yearlong journey supporting young people to find direction, meaning, and confidence in work, study, and life. We focus on 3 core components the Quest, the Hub (our online community and continuation) and the Heist (our hybrid project based real-world experiment)✨ We have a small number of scholarship places still available, supported by our non-profit mission.👉 Quest details & applications here: https://liminal-learning.com/upcoming-questsWhat’s Liminal Learning?It begins with a weeklong retreat in nature, then continues with a year of learning, mentoring, and community — both online and in person. In a supportive cohort with peers and guides, participants explore purpose, values, and how they want to meet the world.👉 Full program overview: https://liminal-learning.com/programLife itself (https://lifeitself.org/) Jacob Kishere www.jacobkishere.com or www.theresonantman.com Harvard series videos starting with IGand theNeither Nor paperFull intro and notes here.Care is not the opposite of love. It is the very urge of life. 'Caring for what?' is the primary question. That we have a choice about what we care for and how is what makes us human, but it's quite the challenge and responsibility. Let's help one another handle it.The Thrive Careers Podcast My career wasn’t a straight line—it was a series of pivots, survival jobs, and...Listen on: Apple Podcasts Leadership Lessons From The Great BooksUnderstanding great literature is better than trying to read and understand (yet)...Listen on: Apple Podcasts SpotifySupport the showBuy Holding Paradox: The Navigational Approach to Mind and Consciousness by Andrea HiottSign up for Making Ways newsletter and projects.Please rate and review with love. YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, Substack.
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    1 時間 5 分
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