AI is everywhere at work, but giving people access to the tools and calling it adoption is where things start to fall apart. In this episode, Brynne and Andy dig into the three types of AI users showing up across organizations: power users, over-reliers, and avoiders, and what those behaviors reveal about how AI is actually being implemented. The bigger issue isn’t whether people are using AI. It’s whether they know where it fits into their work, where it doesn’t, and how to use it without handing over the judgment and expertise that made them good at their jobs in the first place.

Guest Bio:

Andy Eninger ⁠⁠

@Andy_Eninger⁠⁠ (Instagram)

Andy Eninger is a Speaker, Comedian, and Learning Designer. He was the Head of the Writing Program for the famed comedy theater The Second City from 2011 to 2016. He helps individuals and organizations connect to their audience and each other through immersive, customized learning programs that combine storytelling, improv philosophy, rapid ideation, and foundational communication skills. In his creative work, he creates comedy with a mission of amplifying outsider voices and connecting people.

Andy has worked with hundreds of organizations, including Walmart, Procter & Gamble, Leo Burnett, The History Channel, Cigna, State Farm, Visa, Verizon, Salesforce, SAP, Deloitte, Nike, GE, Walgreens, Merck, MetLife, Kellogg’s, and many more. His work takes him around the world to design and deliver learning programs in inclusion, collaborative leadership, executive presence, innovation, and storytelling. He was the chief designer of the curriculum for Nova Collective. For the Second City Works, he has spearheaded their learning programs in Storytelling, Selling Skills, and Diversity & Inclusion, and served on the design team for their work in Consumer Insights for brands.

He continues to write, perform, and direct, with a focus on queer comedy, satire, and improvisation. Some of his favorite projects include: Ensemble member of Chicago’s GayCo Productions for 14 sketch comedy revues; Performing in the cast of Steamworks the Musical for the Annoyance Theater; Little House on the Parody as composer and director; Director and composer of Bandgeeks! A Halftime Musical; Creator of Sybil, a solo improvisational format; Pinque Pony, his two-man sketch group with husband John Loos; and Pony Boy, director and lyrics, for the Annoyance Theater. His play “The Last Castrato” has been produced at theaters in New York, Austin, and Phoenix.

Andy holds a BS in Mass Communications and an MA in Playwriting from Miami University and studied film directing at the Academy of Drama & Film in Budapest, Hungary. He currently lives in Los Angeles with his husband and three dogs, Peggy, Pearl, and Barb from Accounting.

Most organizations have more data than they know what to do with. In this episode, Brynne, Andy, and Jaci dig into what it takes to turn all that information into actual insight. They explore the role of qualitative data, the questions organizations aren’t asking, and the line between using data to uncover a story and using it to prove one. The real value of data comes from understanding what it can tell us, putting it in context, and using that insight to make better decisions. Having the data is one thing. Knowing what to do with it is another.

Guest Bios:

Andy Eninger ⁠⁠

@Andy_Eninger⁠⁠ (Instagram)

Andy Eninger is a Speaker, Comedian, and Learning Designer. He was the Head of the Writing Program for the famed comedy theater The Second City from 2011 to 2016. He helps individuals and organizations connect to their audience and each other through immersive, customized learning programs that combine storytelling, improv philosophy, rapid ideation, and foundational communication skills. In his creative work, he creates comedy with a mission of amplifying outsider voices and connecting people.

Andy has worked with hundreds of organizations, including Walmart, Procter & Gamble, Leo Burnett, The History Channel, Cigna, State Farm, Visa, Verizon, Salesforce, SAP, Deloitte, Nike, GE, Walgreens, Merck, MetLife, Kellogg’s, and many more. His work takes him around the world to design and deliver learning programs in inclusion, collaborative leadership, executive presence, innovation, and storytelling. He was the chief designer of the curriculum for Nova Collective. For the Second City Works, he has spearheaded their learning programs in Storytelling, Selling Skills, and Diversity & Inclusion, and served on the design team for their work in Consumer Insights for brands.

He continues to write, perform, and direct, with a focus on queer comedy, satire, and improvisation. Some of his favorite projects include: Ensemble member of Chicago’s GayCo Productions for 14 sketch comedy revues; Performing in the cast of Steamworks the Musical for the Annoyance Theater; Little House on the Parody as composer and director; Director and composer of Bandgeeks! A Halftime Musical; Creator of Sybil, a solo improvisational format; Pinque Pony, his two-man sketch group with husband John Loos; and Pony Boy, director and lyrics, for the Annoyance Theater. His play “The Last Castrato” has been produced at theaters in New York, Austin, and Phoenix.

Andy holds a BS in Mass Communications and an MA in Playwriting from Miami University and studied film directing at the Academy of Drama & Film in Budapest, Hungary. He currently lives in Los Angeles with his husband and three dogs, Peggy, Pearl, and Barb from Accounting.

Jaci Devine, Ph.D.

For nearly two decades, Dr. Jaci Devine has been helping organizations understand their data and reach their partners with their unique perspective. As both a writer and researcher, Jaci is passionate about the written word and understands how to harness that power into measurable results.

Jaci specializes in strategic communication and research and measurement within organizations of all sizes. With a M.A. in Teaching, a Ph.D. in Intercultural Communication, and published work in both the fields of Communication and Adult Learning, Jaci’s approach blends culture and communication through the lens of an educator.

The professional development and culture economy is on ice, and many organizations are treating investment in their people as a non-essential amenity. Brynne, Andy, and Keilah break down the freeze: what companies say versus what they actually do, and how it feels to be the employee who was valued two years ago and suddenly is not. What is on the surface is a paused budget line. What is underneath is the relationship bill quietly adding up, the trust that erodes, and the high performers who leave when the organization is not ready to meet them. The through line is simple. How you treat people during the freeze is what they will remember, and basic human decency is the minimum viable investment when budgets are tight.

Guest Bios:

Andy Eninger ⁠⁠

@Andy_Eninger⁠⁠ (Instagram)

Andy Eninger is a Speaker, Comedian, and Learning Designer. He was the Head of the Writing Program for the famed comedy theater The Second City from 2011 to 2016. He helps individuals and organizations connect to their audience and each other through immersive, customized learning programs that combine storytelling, improv philosophy, rapid ideation, and foundational communication skills. In his creative work, he creates comedy with a mission of amplifying outsider voices and connecting people.

Andy has worked with hundreds of organizations, including Walmart, Procter & Gamble, Leo Burnett, The History Channel, Cigna, State Farm, Visa, Verizon, Salesforce, SAP, Deloitte, Nike, GE, Walgreens, Merck, MetLife, Kellogg’s, and many more. His work takes him around the world to design and deliver learning programs in inclusion, collaborative leadership, executive presence, innovation, and storytelling. He was the chief designer of the curriculum for Nova Collective. For the Second City Works, he has spearheaded their learning programs in Storytelling, Selling Skills, and Diversity & Inclusion, and served on the design team for their work in Consumer Insights for brands.

He continues to write, perform, and direct, with a focus on queer comedy, satire, and improvisation. Some of his favorite projects include: Ensemble member of Chicago’s GayCo Productions for 14 sketch comedy revues; Performing in the cast of Steamworks the Musical for the Annoyance Theater; Little House on the Parody as composer and director; Director and composer of Bandgeeks! A Halftime Musical; Creator of Sybil, a solo improvisational format; Pinque Pony, his two-man sketch group with husband John Loos; and Pony Boy, director and lyrics, for the Annoyance Theater. His play “The Last Castrato” has been produced at theaters in New York, Austin, and Phoenix.

Andy holds a BS in Mass Communications and an MA in Playwriting from Miami University and studied film directing at the Academy of Drama & Film in Budapest, Hungary. He currently lives in Los Angeles with his husband and two dogs, Pearl and Barb from Accounting.

Keilah Shanahan

Keilah (Johnson) Shanahan is a strategist and facilitator who currently serves as Senior Director of Organizational Culture at a Chicago institution where she leads culture, belonging, and organizational development work. Before that, she spent three years as Strategy Lead at The Nova Collective, designing curriculum and coaching executive teams on building inclusive, high-functioning cultures across more than 35 clients. She holds a master's in Higher Education Administration from Indiana University Bloomington and a bachelor's in Communication and Political Science from Saint Louis University, and she stays active in Chicago's civic and nonprofit leadership community.

We are still blaming generations for everything that goes wrong at work, and now there are more of them than ever to point fingers at. In this episode, Brynne, Andy and Keilah dig into why the generational narrative keeps resurfacing and what it is really standing in for: power, resistance to change, and who gets to define "professional." The bigger move is a shift from managing generations to designing for them. Managing is just trying to stay afloat. Designing is building something that can handle whatever comes at it. That means walking away from one-size-fits-all training, building learning around what an organization actually needs, and modeling the behavior you want to see at every level. Less labeling, more designing.

Guest Bios:

Andy Eninger ⁠⁠

@Andy_Eninger⁠⁠ (Instagram)

Andy Eninger is a Speaker, Comedian, and Learning Designer. He was the Head of the Writing Program for the famed comedy theater The Second City from 2011 to 2016. He helps individuals and organizations connect to their audience and each other through immersive, customized learning programs that combine storytelling, improv philosophy, rapid ideation, and foundational communication skills. In his creative work, he creates comedy with a mission of amplifying outsider voices and connecting people.

Andy has worked with hundreds of organizations, including Walmart, Procter & Gamble, Leo Burnett, The History Channel, Cigna, State Farm, Visa, Verizon, Salesforce, SAP, Deloitte, Nike, GE, Walgreens, Merck, MetLife, Kellogg’s, and many more. His work takes him around the world to design and deliver learning programs in inclusion, collaborative leadership, executive presence, innovation, and storytelling. He was the chief designer of the curriculum for Nova Collective. For the Second City Works, he has spearheaded their learning programs in Storytelling, Selling Skills, and Diversity & Inclusion, and served on the design team for their work in Consumer Insights for brands.

He continues to write, perform, and direct, with a focus on queer comedy, satire, and improvisation. Some of his favorite projects include: Ensemble member of Chicago’s GayCo Productions for 14 sketch comedy revues; Performing in the cast of Steamworks the Musical for the Annoyance Theater; Little House on the Parody as composer and director; Director and composer of Bandgeeks! A Halftime Musical; Creator of Sybil, a solo improvisational format; Pinque Pony, his two-man sketch group with husband John Loos; and Pony Boy, director and lyrics, for the Annoyance Theater. His play “The Last Castrato” has been produced at theaters in New York, Austin, and Phoenix.

Andy holds a BS in Mass Communications and an MA in Playwriting from Miami University and studied film directing at the Academy of Drama & Film in Budapest, Hungary. He currently lives in Los Angeles with his husband and two dogs, Pearl and Barb from Accounting.

Keilah Shanahan

Keilah (Johnson) Shanahan is a strategist and facilitator who currently serves as Senior Director of Organizational Culture at a Chicago institution where she leads culture, belonging, and organizational development work. Before that, she spent three years as Strategy Lead at The Nova Collective, designing curriculum and coaching executive teams on building inclusive, high-functioning cultures across more than 35 clients. She holds a master's in Higher Education Administration from Indiana University Bloomington and a bachelor's in Communication and Political Science from Saint Louis University, and she stays active in Chicago's civic and nonprofit leadership community.

Everyone is arguing about where people work...but almost nobody is asking whether people actually know how to work in whatever environment they're in. In this episode, we dig into the gap between return-to-office mandates and the real issue underneath: the collaboration, communication, and leadership skills that hybrid work exposed but didn't create. With 83% of CEOs expecting full in-person return by 2027 and a third of companies already tracking badge swipes, the pressure is real, but the diagnosis is wrong. Tune in to hear Nova partners Brynne and Andy talk about the skills we are missing in the "great RTO debate".

Guest Bio:

Andy Eninger ⁠⁠

@Andy_Eninger⁠⁠ (Instagram)

Andy Eninger is a Speaker, Comedian, and Learning Designer. He was the Head of the Writing Program for the famed comedy theater The Second City from 2011 to 2016. He helps individuals and organizations connect to their audience and each other through immersive, customized learning programs that combine storytelling, improv philosophy, rapid ideation, and foundational communication skills. In his creative work, he creates comedy with a mission of amplifying outsider voices and connecting people.

Andy has worked with hundreds of organizations, including Walmart, Procter & Gamble, Leo Burnett, The History Channel, Cigna, State Farm, Visa, Verizon, Salesforce, SAP, Deloitte, Nike, GE, Walgreens, Merck, MetLife, Kellogg’s, and many more. His work takes him around the world to design and deliver learning programs in inclusion, collaborative leadership, executive presence, innovation, and storytelling. He was the chief designer of the curriculum for Nova Collective. For the Second City Works, he has spearheaded their learning programs in Storytelling, Selling Skills, and Diversity & Inclusion,n and served on the design team for their work in Consumer Insights for brands.

He continues to write, perform, and direct, with a focus on queer comedy, satire, and improvisation. Some of his favorite projects include: Ensemble member of Chicago’s GayCo Productions for 14 sketch comedy revues; Performing in the cast of Steamworks the Musical for the Annoyance Theater; Little House on the Parody as composer and director; Director and composer of Bandgeeks! A Halftime Musical; Creator of Sybil, a solo improvisational format; Pinque Pony, his two-man sketch group with husband John Loos; and Pony Boy, director and lyrics, for the Annoyance Theater. His play “The Last Castrato” has been produced at theaters in New York, Austin, and Phoenix.

Andy holds a BS in Mass Communications and an MA in Playwriting from Miami University and studied film directing at the Academy of Drama & Film in Budapest, Hungary. He currently lives in Los Angeles with his husband and two dogs, Pearl and Barb from Accounting.

A lot has been happening — the world has felt genuinely unhinged, we merged with our business besties, and the market has gone all mushy. Cue the perfect recipe for an existential crisis!

In this episode, we talk about our personal and professional identity crisis and how it led us to our true north. Just like Dorothy, we had the answer inside us the whole time: behind all the "impact," "scale," and "ROI" noise, we know that the best experiential learning in the world starts with The Nova Collective. And everything else is just clutter.

Guest Bio:

Andy Eninger ⁠⁠

@Andy_Eninger⁠⁠ (Instagram)

Andy Eninger is a Speaker, Comedian, and Learning Designer. He was the Head of the Writing Program for the famed comedy theater The Second City from 2011 to 2016. He helps individuals and organizations connect to their audience and each other through immersive, customized learning programs that combine storytelling, improv philosophy, rapid ideation, and foundational communication skills. In his creative work, he creates comedy with a mission of amplifying outsider voices and connecting people.

Andy has worked with hundreds of organizations, including Walmart, Procter & Gamble, Leo Burnett, The History Channel, Cigna, State Farm, Visa, Verizon, Salesforce, SAP, Deloitte, Nike, GE, Walgreens, Merck, MetLife, Kellogg’s, and many more. His work takes him around the world to design and deliver learning programs in inclusion, collaborative leadership, executive presence, innovation, and storytelling. He was the chief designer of the curriculum for Nova Collective. For the Second City Works, he has spearheaded their learning programs in Storytelling, Selling Skills, and Diversity & Inclusion,n and served on the design team for their work in Consumer Insights for brands.

He continues to write, perform, and direct, with a focus on queer comedy, satire, and improvisation. Some of his favorite projects include: Ensemble member of Chicago’s GayCo Productions for 14 sketch comedy revues; Performing in the cast of Steamworks the Musical for the Annoyance Theater; Little House on the Parody as composer and director; Director and composer of Bandgeeks! A Halftime Musical; Creator of Sybil, a solo improvisational format; Pinque Pony, his two-man sketch group with husband John Loos; and Pony Boy, director and lyrics, for the Annoyance Theater. His play “The Last Castrato” has been produced at theaters in New York, Austin, and Phoenix.

Andy holds a BS in Mass Communications and an MA in Playwriting from Miami University and studied film directing at the Academy of Drama & Film in Budapest, Hungary. He currently lives in Los Angeles with his husband and two dogs, Pearl and Barb from Accounting.

Most workplace training isn’t failing because of effort or investment. It’s failing because it stops at exposure. In this episode, we sit down with Scott Zoll to unpack why so much learning doesn’t translate into real behavior change, and what organizations are getting wrong about how people actually learn at work.

We get into the gap between completion and application, why training alone can’t drive transformation, and the hidden cost of investing in learning that doesn’t stick. Then we shift to what actually works: designing for behavior, embedding learning into the flow of work, and holding leaders accountable for reinforcement.

If nothing changes after the training, this episode will help you rethink what learning should be doing instead and how to make it matter.

Guest Bio:

Scott Zoll

Scott Zoll brings 25+ years of consultative sales experience to his work with L&D clients, with a track record of partnering with complex organizations to identify real learning needs and build solutions that stick. He's worked across every market segment, from growing mid-market companies to globally recognized enterprises, including Deloitte, PwC, AbbVie, Merck, Chevron, Estée Lauder, and Kraft Heinz. Scott's strength is in navigating multi-stakeholder environments where the buying decision is thoughtful and the relationship matters as much as the outcome — exactly the kind of work Nova does best.

Work feels off, and most leaders can feel it. In this episode of Looping You In, Jasmine and Brynne sit down with Nova co-founder Becca Glodoski to unpack the growing trust gap at work and what employees actually want from leadership right now.

From the subtle behaviors that quietly erode trust to the difference between transparency and confusion, this conversation gets honest about why trust feels thinner and what it really takes to rebuild it.

If you’re leading through change (or questioning the leadership around you), this episode offers a clear, practical path forward, starting with one simple idea: say the real thing, and follow through.

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Guest Bio:

Becca Glodoski

Becca helps organizations close the gap between strategy and execution.

She’s a trusted advisor to 150+ executive clients, including Comcast, Delta Air Lines, Netflix, and Harvard Business School, helping leaders navigate high-stakes decisions and drive measurable results.

Her approach is grounded in a simple idea: strategy only matters if it shows up in how people work. She operates at the intersection of organizational effectiveness, talent development, and execution, with a focus on building teams that perform when it matters most. As a longtime leader at The Nova Collective, she built and scaled client strategy and learning solutions designed to drive organizational transformation.