“Can you integrate, and do you do that very frequently on a cadence? Yes, then that generates learning, and so forth, and so forth! Und so weiter, und so weiter!” - Ali Hajou

Why is it important to Develop on Cadence and Release on Demand? How fast can you learn? Does it integrate? Does it work? Do your customers like it? In this episode, Ali, Stephan, Niko, and Mark continue in their quest to provide insight and inspiration to SPCs and other change agents by sharing their personal journeys and war stories from the field.

Stephan hosts and begins by asking Niko, Ali, and Mark how they help teams and ARTs establish a flow system. Ali emphasizes the importance of the flow of knowledge as described in the DevOps handbook. Niko reminds us to build our cadence around people, while Mark wants to minimize the batching impact of cadence.

Exploring the inherent variability of product development, Niko focuses on Continuous Exploration, and Ali empathizes with management and ‘real-world’ commitments. Mark balances the variability of estimates with the chance we’re building something that doesn’t meet customer needs.

The Measure and Grow debate is divided into two camps. Ali and Niko argue for the ART demonstrating an integrated solution in the System Demo". Stephan and Mark, however, stress the importance of the ART addressing bottlenecks in the value stream.

Cast:
Stephan Neck (Moderator)
Ali Hajou
Niko Kaintantzis
Mark Richards

Book References:

• The DevOps Handbook - by Gene Kim, Jez Humble, Patrick Debois, & John Willis