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  • How to Prevent Burnout with Workplace Accommodations
    2026/11/04

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    Hey Rest Rebels! Most of us have been frustrated by workplace processes that don’t work for us or our coworkers, but what happens when you add a visible or invisible disability to that mix? In this episode, I talk with Jeremy Grandstaff, executive director of the Inspiration Foundation, about the link between workplace accommodations and burnout. We get into why accommodations are really about “accessible engagement” for everyone, how little they often cost and what it takes to build a workplace where people can actually rest and contribute.

    Read the full recap and key takeaways on the blog.

    Connect with our Guest and Host

    Jeremy Grandstaff

    • Website: inspirationfoundation.org
    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremygrandstaff/

    Nicole Havelka

    • Podcast: justrestpod.com
    • Just Rest Newsletter: defythetrend.substack.com
    • Burnout recovery coaching: defythetrend.com/burnout-recovery-coaching

    Chapters

    00:00:00 Welcome and a note about the recording

    00:01:17 Introduction to Workplace Accommodations and Burnout Prevention

    00:01:47 Introduction to Just Rest and Jeremy Grandstaff

    00:04:51 Grounding: Taking a Deep Breath

    00:07:04 Jeremy's Journey of Change

    00:14:23 Workplace Discrimination Leading to a New Path

    00:17:58 Burnout among people with disabilities

    00:24:10 Employment and accommodations

    00:25:51 Accommodations as accessible engagement

    00:27:35 Human-centered workplace starts with relationships

    00:29:20 Universal design for workplaces

    00:30:32 Designing experiences for everyone

    00:34:46 Treating people as if they are wise

    00:37:21 How to handle resistance to an inclusive workforce

    00:39:03 How to meet resistance and bring people along

    00:42:29 Technologies designed for inclusivity are good for everyone

    00:45:25 Inclusive workplaces are good for business

    00:48:11 Paths to accessible engagement for everyone

    00:50:16 Creating healthy disagreement in an organization

    00:54:30 Burning out on fighting the fight

    00:58:31 Four quick concluding questions

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    1 時間 12 分
  • Burnout Recovery Tips: Setting Holiday Boundaries Without the Guilt
    2026/10/21

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    The holidays pile a second job on top of your first one. For many women, it's the season in which burnout peaks. In this season 2 opener, we get honest about why holiday pressure is a systemic setup, not a personal failing, and share practical ways to scale back, protect your energy, and handle the one person in your life who wants everything to stay the same. Read more. [blog link]

    My guest is Samantha Gregory, a wellness consultant, femtech founder, and self-devotion architect who helps high-achieving women break up with burnout. We each share our own holiday burnout story, then dig into the "shoulds" of tradition and the real cost of saying yes year after year. You'll leave with simple ideas you can use right away, from shortening your visit to asking for the gift you actually want.

    Connect with Nicole and Samantha:

    Samantha Gregory

    • Self-Care Oasis Newsletter and Pocast on Substack : blyss.substack.com
    • LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/samanthagregory
    • Website: samanthagregory.com

    Nicole Havelka

    • Podcast: justrestpod.com
    • Just Rest Newsletter: defythetrend.substack.com
    • Burnout recovery coaching: defythetrend.com/burnout-recovery-coaching
    • Setting Holiday Boundaries workbook and sticker set: defythetrend.com/setting-holiday-boundaries
    • Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicole-havelka-35762022/
    • Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/just-rest.bsky.social

    Samantha's Worldchanger Organization: CASA (Court Appointed Special Advocates), a child advocacy program for kids in the foster care system: https://advochild.org/

    Chapters

    00:00:00 Introduction to Holiday Setting Holiday Boundaries Episode

    00:01:11 Introducing Guest Samantha Gregory

    00:02:29 Pausing for a Deep Breath

    00:03:29 Holiday Burnout Stories and Experiences

    00:05:55 The Pressure of Holiday Expectations

    00:08:44 Shifting Holiday Traditions and Practices

    00:11:35 Setting Boundaries and Redefining Holidays

    00:14:41 The Cost of Holiday Expectations

    00:17:02 Understanding the System Behind Holiday Pressures

    00:20:19 Navigating Family Dynamics and Traditions

    00:23:09 Creating New Holiday Experiences

    00:24:10 Reduce Holiday Stress by Paring Down

    00:28:26 Navigating Holiday Expectations

    00:28:33 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

    00:33:48 Simplifying Holiday Traditions

    00:39:46 Creating Personal Holiday Experiences

    00:40:25 Rest and Self-Care During the Holidays

    00:44:42 Final Guest Questions: Rest and Liberation

    00:51:24 Setting Holiday Boundaries for a Meaningful Season


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    52 分
  • Creative Burnout and How to Recover From It with Kevin Chung
    2026/09/30

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    What happens when two restless creatives sit down to talk about big leaps, burnout, and why rest might be the fiercest protest of all?

    In this episode, I'm sharing my very first Substack Live, a conversation with my friend and fellow podcaster Kevin Chung of Standout Creatives. It's a little unpolished (it was my first live, and only Kevin's second), but it's full of honest, energizing talk about creative burnout and how rest and resistance feed your creativity.

    Kevin and his wife recently left Miami for San Juan, Costa Rica, chasing a life more aligned with nature and creativity. Our conversation ranges from downsizing to improv, from the myth of the starving artist to Theater of the Oppressed, and from capitalism's obsession with hustle to the radical idea that rest is what fuels resistance.

    And around the 5-minute mark, I blurted out my own scary, thrilling dream for the year ahead: living nomadically. It was the first time I'd said it publicly. (Spoiler: I'm doing it now!)

    In this episode, we talk about:

    • What creative burnout looks like and how to recover from it
    • The myth of the starving artist, and why it keeps creatives depleted
    • Art and rest as resistance
    • How listening to your body protects your creativity
    • Improv and Theater of the Oppressed as creative and liberatory practices
    • Downsizing, big moves, and building a more intentional life
    • Kevin's move from Miami to Costa Rica, and my plan to live nomadically

    Links from the show:

    Was it Chance? Podcast with Alan Seales and Healther Vickery featuring Historian Tad Stormer.

    Theater of the Oppressed by Augusto Boal

    Make Art Make Money: Lessons from Jim Henson for Fueling Your Creative Life by Elizabeth Hyde Stevens

    Rest is Resistance by Tricia Hersey

    About my conversation partner

    Kevin Chung helps creative people finish what matters: the book, the business, or the life they actually want, through creative thinking, mindset shifts, and marketing advice. He hosts The Standout Creatives, Standout Reinventions, and Standout Authors, and he recently left the United States to live out his creative dreams in Costa Rica.

    Connect with Kevin: The Standout Creatives newsletter and podcast

    Rest with me

    If you want a place to rest so your creative juices can flow again, become a paid Substack subscriber to Just Rest. You'll get my full reflections on living nomadically, tips for preventing and recovering from burnout, and more opportunities to rest.

    You are worthy of rest!

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    39 分
  • Self-Care for Solopreneurs: Gratitude Geek Encore
    2026/09/16

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    Running your own business is rewarding, but let’s be honest—it can also be exhausting, overwhelming, and sometimes downright soul-sucking. In this episode, I got to guest on the Gratitude Geek podcast with three powerhouse solopreneurs — Deb Davis, Di Hilstad and Gratitude Geek host, Kandas Rodarte. We talked about survival-level self-care strategies for women over 40. From setting boundaries and asking for help to creating your personal “Survivor’s Toolkit,” we cover practical, real-world ways to protect your energy, thrive in your work or business, and still find time to breathe. Whether you’re facing burnout, health challenges, or just want to reclaim your calendar, this episode is packed with actionable tips to help you survive — and even enjoy — entrepreneurship.

    This encore presentation of the Gratitude Geek episode is part of my summer playlist series, where I'm re-sharing some of my favorite conversations from guesting on other podcasts this past year. I'm so grateful to Kandas for creating a space where I could share my hard-won lessons about self-care and share my toolkit with you.

    00:00 Introduction to Self-Care for Solopreneurs

    00:49 Introducing Self-Care for Solopreneurs guests

    04:20 Mortality and Self-Care

    07:32 Self-care Toolkit for Solopreneurs

    10:22 Being Intentional, Setting Boundaries

    20:09 Pause before your body tells you to

    28:47 Giving or being taken advantage of?

    36:49 Comfort sharing story, setting boundaries

    40:51 Lightening Round Questions

    47:06 Conclusion: Spill the Tea on Setting Boundaries

    Links

    • Deb: https://upage.in/deb
    • Di: http://instagram.com/dihils
    • Energy Mapping: https://designingyour.life/insights/find-your-flow-with-energy-maps/
    • Full Show Notes: https://kandasrodarte.com/287

    Meet the Host of Gratitude Geek

    Kandas Rodarte is a business coach, podcaster, and internet marketing pioneer who has been helping women solopreneurs over 40 grow businesses that fit their lives for decades. Living with metastatic breast cancer since 2014, she understands firsthand the importance of self-care, boundaries, and working smart—less hustle, more impact.

    Meet the Guests

    Deb Davis is an accomplished headshot photographer and author, known for her stress-free sessions and expert expression coaching. She serves as President of Professional Photographers of Michigan (2024–2025) and is an elite Associate with the Peter Hurley Photography Group. Deb helps professionals over 40 show up fully, inside and out, using photography as a tool to highlight confidence and authenticity. Her personal journey as a breast cancer survivor has reshaped her approach to self-care and legacy, making her a relatable guide for solopreneurs navigating life and work simultaneously.

    Dianna “Di” Hilstad is a bold, creative entrepreneur and solopreneur coach who helps women build businesses that feel authentic. Known for blending strategy with sass, Di has reinvented herself multiple times, including navigating breast cancer, a hysterectomy, and a broken ankle. She champions asking for help, setting boundaries, and thinking outside the box, making her insights invaluable for women balancing health, life, and business.

    Connect with Guest Host

    • Gratitude Geek Email list here: http://kandasrodarte.com/subscribe
    • Help finance the show: http://kandasrodarte.com/support
    • Affiliate Disclosure: Some links in the show notes may be affiliate links, which means I may earn a small commission at no extra cost to you. Thank you for supporting the show!

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    49 分
  • Both/And, Not Either/Or: My Life Journey with Amy Stone
    2026/09/02

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    Listening back to this conversation with Amy Stone a year after we recorded it, what struck me most is how much of my story is really a story about frustration. Not frustration as a problem to fix, but frustration as the thing that has prompted almost every pivot I've made — from journalism to ministry, from church administration to yoga teacher training, and finally to founding Defy the Trend. Amy has a gift for drawing out the best nuggets from a person’s story, and in this episode she pulls the thread through nearly all of mine, landing me right where I am today: an imperfectly adulting burnout recovery coach and sustainability strategist who believes rest is liberation.

    This episode is part of my summer playlist series, where I'm re-sharing some of my favorite conversations from guesting on other podcasts this past year. I'm so grateful to Amy for creating a space where I could go deep on faith, burnout, and the "both/and" mindset that changed everything for me.

    What we talked about in this episode:

    • My career journey from journalist to minister to burnout recovery coach
    • The inside story of church administration — institutional resistance, advocating for change, and where that frustration led me
    • How burnout showed up in ministry, and why yoga became a lifeline and a "both/and" practice
    • Leaning on spiritual practice to move through tough, high-pressure decisions
    • Leaving the church as a disgruntled teen, and finding my way back to faith and community decades later
    • Real talk on salaries and sustainability in faith-based work
    • The moment mid-yoga-practice when "either/or" cracked open into "both/and" — and how that became the seed of Defy the Trend
    • Where my work, my podcast, and this "both/and" philosophy stand today

    Chapters:

    00:00 Intro to The Art of Imperfect Adulting

    00:53 Amy's Into to Nicole's Journey

    03:50 Warm-up: Words of Kindness

    05:50 Frustration that Lead to a Pivot

    09:11 Cause of Frustration

    10:45 Navigating Resistance in Innovation

    12:30 Hiring in the Church

    20:36 Structural Support for Innovation

    21:48 Religion: A hot button and good case study

    29:45 Nicole's Quarter Life Crisis of Faith

    36:40 What Working for the Church is Like

    41:41 Yoga in Nicole's Path

    46:23 Yoga and Ministry: Both/And

    52:40 Life as a Burnout Recovery Coach

    54:35 Nicole's Podcast Journey

    56:26 Fun Questions

    59:23 Graititude

    Connect with Amy Stone, Host, The Art of Imperfect Adulting):

    • Website: https://www.imperfectadulting.com
    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theartof_imperfect_adulting
    • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@imperfectadulting
    • TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@imperfectadulting
    • Support the show: https://imperfect-adulting.captivate.fm/support

    CONNECT WITH NICOLE HAVELKA:

    • Newsletter: https://defythetrend.substack.com/
    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicole-havelka-35762022/
    • Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/just-rest.bsky.social
    • Work with Nicole: https://defythetrend.com/contact/
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    1 時間 3 分
  • Burnout Recovery & Creating a Culture of Rest: An Empowered and Embodied Encore
    2026/08/19

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    This is my summer playlist of podcasts where I guested this past year. I was honestly challenged by coaches Kim Romain and Louise Neil on the Empowered and Embodied Show to reflect more thoughtfully on what has shifted for me as I’ve worked on preventing and recovering from burnout in my own life. This is a side of the conversation you’d rarely get when I’m the one asking the questions.

    Two things really stood out:

    • The discussion about “proving myself” and what energy have I replaced that with?
    • And the conversation about what success looks like for you? I’m not going to spoil what Louise says is her answer, but please listen because it is really good.

    We also dive into:

    • How burnout shows up differently for each of us, and why it’s not just an individual problem but a collective one
    • The pressure to constantly prove our worth through productivity and “being the best”
    • Why the word can’t disempowers us, and how to reclaim choice in our lives and work
    • The surprising overlaps between burnout, perimenopause, and values misalignment
    • Practical ways to create compassionate workplaces, embrace rest, and focus on impact instead of output

    If you’ve ever felt buried under the weight of doing it all, this conversation will remind you that rest is not only possible, it’s essential, powerful, and deeply radical.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Empowerment and Embodied Show Encore
    05:54 "Proving Yourself" Energy
    11:56 The Challenge of Being Present
    14:20 Defining Success for Ourselves
    22:15 The Ripple Effect of Slowing Down
    23:36 Different Causes of Burnout
    31:30 Perimenopause Contributing to Burnout
    39:05 The Joy of Making Your Own Choices
    42:51 What is my work to do?
    45:55 Nicole's Conclusion & More Great Pods

    Join a circle of changemakers committed to leading with purpose, presence and ease inside Kim's Rising Visionaries mentorship program and check out her new podcast, Questioning our Conditioning. Reclaim your career and confidence during midlife through Louise's Rise & Redefine program.

    Rising Visionaries: https://kimromain.com/rising-visionaries
    Rise and Redefine program: https://louiseneil.com/services/rise-and-redefine

    Questioning our Conditioning podcast

    On Substack: https://thekimromain.substack.com/p/why-i-started-questioning-our-conditioning

    On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thekimromain

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    49 分
  • Contact (1997): Faith, Science & My Formative Film (Media/Lit Encore)
    2026/08/10
    Chat with Just RestThis is my summer playlist of podcasts where I guested this past year. I am really excited to share this podcast with you because it shows a different side of me that rarely gets out in public. (DIdya know I trained to be a film and theater critic in college?) I was invited on Media/Lit where all media gets treated as great works of literature with hosts Randy Allain and Kris Ingersol. I was overjoyed to invite these generous hosts to watch and discuss one of my all-time favorite movies, Contact (1997). You get to hear why this movie was formative in my journey and how it still resonates with me today.We cover everything from interstellar transmissions to a killer performance from Jodie Foster. We compare this piece of media to other important cultural texts, and most importantly, we explore the intersection of science and faith. As always, the panel wraps up the chat with an extra credit section in which we pick our “Bardo Buddies” and take home a prop from the filmWant to get in touch? Visit our⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠website⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ &⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ page! Follow us on YouTube:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠@MediaLitPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠@media.lit.pod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, Bluesky:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠@media-lit.bsky.social⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, and Twitter:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠@MediaLitPod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠! Also, hit us with your questions, comments, and episode requests at ⁠⁠⁠media.slash.lit@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠.Chapters00:00 Nicole's Excitement to be on Media/Lit01:09 Welcome to Media/Lit (encore)03:39 Burnout Recovery Coaching in Challenging Times04:59 Introduction to Contact (1997)11:32 Insights on Rewatching Contact's Famous Intro17:46 Personal Connections to the Movie28:20 Gender Representation in the Film33:40 The Role of Science and Faith in the Narrative37:19 Contact as Literature: CGI Corner43:27 Themes of the Film55:18 Pop Culture References and their Impact59:43 Contact Comparatives01:08:09 Favorite Performance in the Film01:20:40 Favorite Scenes01:30:10 Most Quotable Line01:46:15 Who is your Bardo Buddy?01:52:21 What prop would you take?02:00:22 Closing02:06:07 Nicole's Final Thoughts on Media/LitCONNECT WITH RANDY, KRIS & MEDIA/LIT:Website: https://mediaslashlit.weebly.com/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MediaLitPodcastInstagram: @media.lit.pod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Bluesky:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠@media-lit.bsky.social⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Twitter:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠@MediaLitPodCONNECT WITH NICOLE HAVELKA:NewsletterLinkedInBlueskyWork with NicoleLeave a Voice MemoSend me a message via Speakpipe.A proud member of the Feminist Podcasters Collective.
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    2 時間 7 分