A YouTube compilation of 75-year-olds finishing Ironman made Mick Kelly cry in his living room — six years later he's signed up for a 200-mile race with more elevation than Everest.

The We Got The Chocolates host joins Courtney and Liam for the first proper podcaster-on-podcaster episode: the 4:30am bike crash where he lay in the road wondering why he'd bother getting up, the Rainbow Beach vomit video he chose to film, and why he picked a human coach over AI.

Plus the Sydney Marathon medal that accidentally featured a stadium in Munich, Mondo Duplantis releasing a pop single, and an honest take on why run clubs aren't for everyone. Two blokes who train talking to a bloke who makes content for a living — and does the training anyway.

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Liam made a bold prediction about 'On Running' brand back in January. Last week it cost Roger Federer seventy-four million dollars in a single day. That's the hand-up moment this episode starts on, before the boys get into whether the running world has too much access — Michael Jordan, Bill Murray, and the surfers who reckon marketing is ruining the sport.

Plus the six things that make up a premium runner's $1,500 annual budget, Courtney's verdict on Liam's floaty shorts, and why major marathons are just grown up Ooshies.

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A running brand where you can't buy the kit until your Strava time says you've earned it — Liam reckons that's a concept, not a gimmick, and Courtney wants in.

Liam debriefs his City to Surf TV commentary debut, why Mona's 35-year-old record still runs the whole event, and the Andy Buchanan story that got him into the good books with the Buchanans.

Then: the Hyrox founder admits the name came out of a lawsuit and a legal test, a US report puts trail running at $20 billion, and a listener who's sacked two coaches for AI sparks a proper conversation about whose running it actually is.

Plus Australia's toughest foot race: 63.5kg of wheat, one kilometre, and the world's smallest mountain.

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