Ginger Cook and Will Sumser, CFP® welcome special guest Nina Miller, an experienced HR professional, for a deeper look at personality profiles and communication styles. They discuss how understanding ourselves and others can improve relationships, strengthen teams, and help business owners communicate more effectively.

• This episode's God Wink: Nina shares a story about a heart-shaped tile she discovered during a morning prayer walk and how it helped guide her decision to wait for her future husband, Brian.

• Nina walks Ginger and Will through popular personality assessments, including DiSC, Myers-Briggs, and 16 Personalities, and explains why these tools are about more than simply identifying personality traits.

• Ginger and Will get a closer look at their own DiSC results, including their strengths, communication styles, blind spots, and opportunities for growth.

• The conversation touches on adapting communication styles, building stronger teams, improving hiring decisions, and learning to work with people who are wired differently than we are.

• Rank It or Roast It: Fireworks versus drone shows are up for debate in today's Rank It or Roast It segment!

• Tony Robbins DiSC Assessment

• 16 Personalities

• Grace & Grit Facebook Page

Hosts: Ginger Cook and Will Sumser, CFP®
Guest: Nina Miller
Produced by: Jeremiah Isley — Crooked Path Productions

Ginger Cook and Will Sumser, CFP® talk about personality profiles, spiritual gifts, and how understanding the way we are wired can strengthen our businesses, relationships, and faith. They discuss communication styles, blind spots, practical uses for personality tests, and how God gives each person unique gifts to serve, encourage, lead, and build community.

• This episode's God Wink: Ginger shares a story about praying for someone to help her become more comfortable praying out loud for others, only to discover that her friend had been praying for someone to mentor.

• Ginger and Will Flip the Script on personality tests and talk about why they are not just for hiring — they can be practical tools for communication, relationships, leadership, and personal growth.

• Ginger and Will discuss DISC, 16 Personalities, CliftonStrengths, Enneagram, spiritual gifts assessments, and how these tools can help reveal strengths, blind spots, and communication preferences.

• Rank It or Roast It: Pocket butter is ranked in today's Rank It or Roast It segment!

• Lifeway Spiritual Gifts Assessment
• 16 Personalities
• Grace & Grit Facebook Page

Hosts: Ginger Cook and Will Sumser, CFP®
Produced by: Jeremiah Isley — Crooked Path Productions

Ginger Cook and Will Sumser, CFP® kick off season two with a conversation about what truly makes a brand. They talk about why a logo is only one piece of the bigger picture, and how faith, integrity, honesty, positivity, connection, and service shape the way they show up in business and life.

• This episode's God Wink: Will shares a story from the golf course, where a prayer with a friend became the start of a renewed faith journey and a reminder that God is always in the details.
• Ginger and Will Flip the Script on branding and talk about why the logo is not the brand — it is only a symbol of the mission, values, experience, and legacy behind it.
• Ginger and Will discuss the core values behind Grace & Grit and their businesses, including faith, integrity, honesty, positive attitude, and being a connector.
• The conversation touches on client experience, reputation, doing the right thing when no one is watching, and educating small business owners so they feel less alone.
• Rank It or Roast It: Buc-ee's is ranked — and roasted — in today's Rank It or Roast It segment!

• Ryan Serhant's HEART Method
• Grace & Grit Facebook Page

Hosts: Ginger Cook and Will Sumser, CFP®
Produced by: Jeremiah Isley — Crooked Path Productions

Today Ginger and Will take a quick look back at season 1 as they prepare for season 2!

It turns out, they've got a poem for you!

• Grace & Grit Facebook Page

Hosts: Ginger Cook and Will Sumser, CFP®
Produced by: Jeremiah Isley — Crooked Path Productions

Ginger Cook and Will Sumser, CFP® wrap up season one with special guest Cheryl Sumser, reflecting on what it took to launch and survive their first year of podcasting. They talk about the unexpected work behind the scenes, learning as they went, building a brand, staying obedient to the nudge, and realizing that podcasting is less like a hobby and more like running a business.

• This episode's God Wink: Cheryl shares the powerful story of hearing the the voice of God, and how that moment has shaped the way she serves others during some of life's hardest seasons.
• Ginger, Will, and Cheryl Flip the Script on podcasting and talk about why it is not as easy as hitting record — it takes planning, patience, branding, feedback, and a whole lot of grace and grit.
• Ginger and Will share how Grace & Grit came to be, including the original nudge, the messy middle, the missed steps, and the goal of helping small business owners feel less alone.
• Rank It or Roast It: The YouVersion Bible App gets ranked in today's Rank It or Roast It segment!

• YouVersion Bible App
• Being Mortal
• Grace & Grit Facebook Page

Hosts: Ginger Cook and Will Sumser, CFP®
Guest: Cheryl Sumser
Produced by: Jeremiah Isley — Crooked Path Productions

Ginger Cook and Will Sumser, CFP® talk about the messy middle of growth — the season where business is working, but scaling brings new challenges, pressure, and decisions. They discuss systems, delegation, technology, capacity, burnout, and how growth is not just about doing more, but learning how to do things differently.

• This episode's God Wink: Ginger shares a story from serving at church, where a meaningful encounter reminded her that God is always working through the people and moments placed in our path.
• Ginger and Will Flip the Script on scaling and talk about why success is not always proven by constant expansion, bigger numbers, or doing everything yourself.
• Ginger and Will discuss the messy middle of business growth, including capacity, cash flow, delegation, hiring, and the pressure that comes with moving from surviving to scaling.
• The conversation touches on using systems, processes, technology, and tools like the Eisenhower Matrix to protect time, reduce burnout, and make better decisions.
• Rank It or Roast It: S'mores with Reese's are ranked in today's Rank It or Roast It segment!

• Eisenhower Matrix
• Grace & Grit Facebook Page

Hosts: Ginger Cook and Will Sumser, CFP®
Produced by: Jeremiah Isley — Crooked Path Productions

Ginger Cook and Will Sumser, CFP® talk about the importance of having accountability partners in business, faith, and life. They discuss honesty, encouragement, mentorship, hard conversations, and why the right accountability relationship does not always have to be perfectly 50/50.

• This episode's God Wink: Will shares a story about a Hope Financial Group event, a phone call that happened at exactly the right time, and how God used that moment to show up in someone else's life.
• Ginger and Will Flip the Script on accountability and talk about why an accountability partnership does not have to be 50/50 to be meaningful, healthy, or effective.
• Ginger and Will discuss the importance of having people who can tell you the truth, help you see clearly, and have hard conversations with you when needed.
• Rank It or Roast It: Cousins Maine Lobster rolls are ranked in today's Rank It or Roast It segment!

• Grace & Grit Facebook Page

Hosts: Ginger Cook and Will Sumser, CFP®
Produced by: Jeremiah Isley — Crooked Path Productions

Ginger Cook and Will Sumser, CFP® talk about defining success in a way that actually fits your business, your values, and your season of life. They discuss comparison, realistic goal setting, measuring progress, knowing your numbers, and remembering that success is not always found in someone else's scoreboard.

• This episode's God Wink: Ginger shares a story from a women's retreat, where God placed her at the right table with the right people as she prayed about becoming more intentional in praying for others.
• Ginger and Will Flip the Script on comparison and talk about why business owners should not define success by measuring themselves against someone else's goals, pace, or platform.
• Ginger and Will discuss setting realistic goals, focusing on client experience, honoring rest, and remembering that productivity is not the same thing as identity.
• The conversation touches on measuring progress, knowing your numbers, tracking what matters, and using goals as a guide instead of a source of pressure.
• Rank It or Roast It: Dewey's Tito Santana pizza gets ranked in today's Rank It or Roast It segment!

• Tracking Metrics - Live Plan
• Grace & Grit Facebook Page
  
  

Hosts: Ginger Cook and Will Sumser, CFP®
Produced by: Jeremiah Isley — Crooked Path Productions