Ginger Cook and Will Sumser, CFP® wrap up season one with special guest Cheryl Sumser, reflecting on what it took to launch and survive their first year of podcasting. They talk about the unexpected work behind the scenes, learning as they went, building a brand, staying obedient to the nudge, and realizing that podcasting is less like a hobby and more like running a business.

• This episode's God Wink: Cheryl shares the powerful story of hearing the the voice of God, and how that moment has shaped the way she serves others during some of life's hardest seasons.
• Ginger, Will, and Cheryl Flip the Script on podcasting and talk about why it is not as easy as hitting record — it takes planning, patience, branding, feedback, and a whole lot of grace and grit.
• Ginger and Will share how Grace & Grit came to be, including the original nudge, the messy middle, the missed steps, and the goal of helping small business owners feel less alone.
• Rank It or Roast It: The YouVersion Bible App gets ranked in today's Rank It or Roast It segment!

• YouVersion Bible App
• Being Mortal
• Grace & Grit Facebook Page

Hosts: Ginger Cook and Will Sumser, CFP®
Guest: Cheryl Sumser
Produced by: Jeremiah Isley — Crooked Path Productions

Ginger Cook and Will Sumser, CFP® talk about the messy middle of growth — the season where business is working, but scaling brings new challenges, pressure, and decisions. They discuss systems, delegation, technology, capacity, burnout, and how growth is not just about doing more, but learning how to do things differently.

• This episode's God Wink: Ginger shares a story from serving at church, where a meaningful encounter reminded her that God is always working through the people and moments placed in our path.
• Ginger and Will Flip the Script on scaling and talk about why success is not always proven by constant expansion, bigger numbers, or doing everything yourself.
• Ginger and Will discuss the messy middle of business growth, including capacity, cash flow, delegation, hiring, and the pressure that comes with moving from surviving to scaling.
• The conversation touches on using systems, processes, technology, and tools like the Eisenhower Matrix to protect time, reduce burnout, and make better decisions.
• Rank It or Roast It: S'mores with Reese's are ranked in today's Rank It or Roast It segment!

• Eisenhower Matrix
• Grace & Grit Facebook Page

Hosts: Ginger Cook and Will Sumser, CFP®
Produced by: Jeremiah Isley — Crooked Path Productions

Ginger Cook and Will Sumser, CFP® talk about the importance of having accountability partners in business, faith, and life. They discuss honesty, encouragement, mentorship, hard conversations, and why the right accountability relationship does not always have to be perfectly 50/50.

• This episode's God Wink: Will shares a story about a Hope Financial Group event, a phone call that happened at exactly the right time, and how God used that moment to show up in someone else's life.
• Ginger and Will Flip the Script on accountability and talk about why an accountability partnership does not have to be 50/50 to be meaningful, healthy, or effective.
• Ginger and Will discuss the importance of having people who can tell you the truth, help you see clearly, and have hard conversations with you when needed.
• Rank It or Roast It: Cousins Maine Lobster rolls are ranked in today's Rank It or Roast It segment!

• Grace & Grit Facebook Page

Hosts: Ginger Cook and Will Sumser, CFP®
Produced by: Jeremiah Isley — Crooked Path Productions