Today Laura chats one-on-one with Relativity CEO Phil Saunders. They chat about Phil's origin story and his journey to Relativity including a desire to work with Andrew Sieja, the Godfather of many things eDiscovery. They discuss if eDiscovery is boring and what keeps Phil up at night. Laura gets Phil's take on Relativity being either the 800 lbs. gorilla in the room, Bruce Lee or even Wayne Gretzky. They talk about Relativity's view on AI, the Say-Do Ratio, the innovator's dilemma and Winston Churchill's cabinet position designed to get to the truth. They also chat about a new approach and framework started by a group of industry leaders, Legal Data Intelligence. Finally, they debate if pickle juice is gross (it is).

Phil Saunders joined Relativity as Chief Executive Officer in December 2022. He has more than three decades of operating experience in the technology industry. Phil has significant expertise in sectors germane to Relativity including enterprise SaaS, as CEO of both Cornerstone OnDemand and Saba Software; infrastructure technology, in roles at Oracle and Motorola; and cybersecurity, as an executive at SafeNet and Thales (formerly Gemalto). He received his bachelor’s degree from University at Albany, SUNY and his MBA from Seton Hall University.