In this episode of the Different podcast, I talk with Steve Chalke about shame and guilt. We chat about an experience at an AA meeting, and what a revelation it was of honesty and hope. We explore how shame can cause us to feel unworthy and even paralyse us. Guilt, on the other hand, we see can motivate and move us towards transformation, and making amends. And together we explore more about believing how we are all loved and lovable. And we wonder how different things might be if we believed we are actually, beloved by God. We recognise that we all need champions who affirm that this belovedness is true. So we pray that as you listen, this sense of being beloved finds a home in you.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode of the Different podcast, Steve Chalke and I talk about why lament really matters, especially when we are surrounded on every side by seeming chaos. and the 24 hour news cycle. We chat about how to find our way when things seem out of control. And we think about discovering a healthy practice of lemon, through which we can help and support one another. As we go through disruption. We realise that lament is a sacred and holy act. So instead of despising it, see that we can grow through it and find the courage we need to help create a better and more generous world. It felt like this conversation really mattered.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode of the Different podcast, Steve Chalke and I talk about the human instinct to keep our distance from what is hard or challenging or doesn’t make sense. Via talk of playing hockey, having asthma, and wondering how God would figure in a game of Top Trumps, we chat about the way some beliefs leave us unable to manage the joy and pain of life and actually cause us harm rather than helping us. And we think through where God might be in all of this. This was a hope-filled, honest and enlightening conversation – we trust you will find it helpful and hopeful too.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode of the Different podcast Steve Chalke and I explore how are struggle to like and love others is connected to our struggle to like and love ourselves. We talk about the work of the philosopher, Martin Buber, and reflect on a tweet from Elmo of Sesame Street fame. We explore the impact that knowing we are loved by others can have on what we believe about ourselves. And, reflecting on the words of Anthony de Mello, we consider the invitation to behold the one beholding us and smiling and try and understand how we can be a conduit for the divine in our relationships with others and how this can change everything.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode of the Different podcast Steve Chalke and I continue our conversation about how we can bring an end to the descending spiral of violence through the building of diverse, inclusive community wherever we are, recognising our absolute need as human beings to belong to and with others. It's built into our DNA and it’s what it means to be fully human and flourishing. So, - it’s interdependence not independence. Belonging not separation. Inclusion and not exclusion. Our prayer is that this conversation brings you hope and the belief that a different kind of world really is possible.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode of the Different podcast Steve Chalke and I explore how all behaviour is communication. We dive into the news, trying to make sense of what is happening now by seeing how trauma impacts individuals and whole people groups. We recognise how trauma that we don’t deal with deals with us. And we try to work out how we can surface trauma, talking and listening to the pain on both sides of the table and so bring peace into the world, all with a holy imagination. This was part one of an important conversation. It’s a conversation we all need to keep having. We hope and pray you find it helpful.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I'm Jill Rowe, and in this episode of the different podcast, Steve Chalke and I chat about forgiveness and grudges. We talk openly and honestly about times in our own lives when forgiveness has been something we have made our way to.

Having realised that unforgiveness was toxic, we describe how forgiveness is in fact a gateway to freedom and come to see that Jesus was inviting us to discover our own healing. When we forgive our enemies, we chat about how to live into the future rather than using the past as our reference point. This discussion was a great reminder of why forgiveness is such a profoundly powerful force for good and for transformation. May it bring goodness and hope to you.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this episode of the different podcast, I talk with Steve Chalke about his new book, A Manifesto for Hope. We discuss how the systems that are meant to help people are failing. We look all the way back to the Beveridge Report, a revolution that laid out how to create social equality through partnership between government, the voluntary sector and local communities. Right at its core, Steve makes plain what needs to happen next,  a new form of partnership where decisions are made as close to the ground as possible and describes how transcendence, spirituality and community must be held at the core of a new manifesto. This was an incredibly rich and profound conversation, and the book is a must read for sure.

Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).

This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.