This one really blew my mind — and I was asking questions I'm genuinely grappling with myself. Kristen Schwartz is a certified trauma recovery coach, author of The Healed Empath, and founder of Realized Empath — a wellness community supporting highly sensitive people and empaths since 2016. Kristen and I dig into how to tell the difference between a trauma response and your highly sensitive nature, why labelling yourself an empath can sometimes mask unresolved trauma, what to actually do with emotions you absorb from other people, and why the next step in the empath journey is taking full responsibility for your own inner state.

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• Alive & Aligned: 7 Embodiment Practices For Self Connection: https://marinayt.com/alive-and-aligned

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"Labelling yourself highly sensitive can mask being a trauma survivor. The coping mechanisms you developed to feel safe — those aren't your sensitivity. Those are survival." — Kristen Schwartz

"Once your mind gets involved in an emotion — once you're questioning it, dissecting it, asking whose it is — it's already yours. You've made it your responsibility." — Kristen Schwartz

"Someone's opinion of me felt like an emergency in my nervous system. Because how they saw me would determine how they treated me. Therefore they were unsafe." — Kristen Schwartz

"We've created a culture that looks outward for inner peace — blame, control, trigger warnings. And it's made people less able to sit with their own stuff." — Kristen Schwartz

"You can still be deeply sensitive without losing yourself. The goal is to feel everything — and still stay at peace." — Kristen Schwartz

highly sensitive person, empath healing, trauma and sensitivity, nervous system healing, somatic healing, empath vs highly sensitive, trauma response, emotional regulation, absorbing others emotions, inner peace, people pleasing, hypervigilance, fawn response, trauma recovery, embodiment, realized empath, deep within podcast, Kristen Schwartz, Marina Triner, emotional responsibility

One of the most confusing parts of the healing journey is not knowing whether what you're feeling is a trauma response or the discomfort of actually growing. I've been teaching about this in my group program and I wanted to bring it here too — because getting this wrong is one of the biggest ways we stay stuck. I walk through what a trauma response actually feels like in the body, what a dis-confirming experience is and why it's so important, the five F's of nervous system response, and the three options I always give my clients when it comes to relational triggers. This one is practical, grounded, and something I wish someone had taught me a long time ago.

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• Alive & Aligned: 7 Embodiment Practices For Self Connection: https://marinayt.com/alive-and-aligned

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Top Episode Quotes:

"Our minds and bodies confuse threat with safety really easily. We can read safe situations as threatening — and threatening situations as safe."

"When you receive something that was absent in your childhood — love, support, connection — it can register as unsafe. But what's actually happening is the emotions from that time are finally coming to the surface."

"Dis-confirming experiences are uncomfortable because they are filled with the emotions from childhood we haven't yet felt. That's not danger. That's healing."

"Fix is trying to be somebody's therapist when they don't need one. It is a trauma response — and it lives in the nervous system, in the body."

"If somebody does not take in your feedback given from a regulated state, that's important information. That's when boundaries aren't optional — they're necessary."

trauma response, nervous system healing, somatic healing, discomfort vs trauma, healing journey, triggers and trauma, five trauma responses, fawn response, freeze response, fight flight freeze, relational triggers, inner child healing, embodiment, self trust, safe attachment, deep within podcast, Marina Triner, somatic coaching, complex trauma, emotional regulation

I was so excited for this one, and Nicole did not disappoint. Dr. Nicole LePera, the Holistic Psychologist, trained at Cornell University and the New School for Social Research, is the founder of SelfHealers Circle and the author of three books including the number one New York Times bestseller How to Do the Work. In this conversation, Nicole and I go deep into covert narcissism, how growing up with emotional unavailability shapes every relationship that follows, what re-parenting actually looks like in the body, and why healing is never a straight line from A to B. I had so many personal realisations listening back to this one, about my own relational blueprint, my expectations, and how narcissism in my family has quietly shaped how I show up with others.

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theholisticpsychologist.com

www.instagram.com/the.holistic.psychologist

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• Alive & Aligned: 7 Embodiment Practices For Self Connection: https://marinayt.com/alive-and-aligned

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Top Episode Quotes:

"We all become self-focused when we feel threatened — that's survival. But when someone is consistently unable to hold anyone else's perspective, that's a different pattern entirely." — Dr. Nicole LePera

"I was a million miles away, demanding someone feel close to me — while every instinct in my body was pushing them away. That was the contradiction I had to face." — Dr. Nicole LePera

"Re-parenting begins in the body. Teaching your nervous system how to come back to safety — that's the foundation everything else is built on." — Dr. Nicole LePera

"The familiar thing that's causing harm still feels safer than the unknown thing that might heal you. That's just how a nervous system works." — Dr. Nicole LePera

"You don't have to get rid of your past entirely. The goal is to give yourself a choice — to bring forward what still serves you and break free from what's overtaking your present." — Dr. Nicole LePera

inner child healing, reparenting, covert narcissism, nervous system healing, somatic healing, childhood emotional neglect, attachment wounds, relational patterns, hypervigilance, emotional attunement, people pleasing, family estrangement, self healing, trauma recovery, embodiment, deep within podcast, Nicole LePera, holistic psychologist, Marina Triner, How to Do the Work

This one opened my heart wide open, and I cried with a friend straight after recording it. Chelsea Horton is a somatic coach, educator, and founder of Healing Embodied, where she trains wellness professionals to integrate somatics, creativity, and emotional healing into their work. A former worship leader with a master's in Dance and Movement Therapy, Chelsea went from the most devoted Christian you'd ever meet, engaged to her gay best friend for Jesus, to building a life and practice rooted entirely in embodied truth. Together we explore religious trauma, good girl programming, what embodiment actually means in daily life, and why your emotions are not a problem to solve but raw material for creation.

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"Embodiment is when you live, breathe, become the thing — instead of just knowing it conceptually. It's not a switch you turn on. Your body has to learn a new way of being." — Chelsea Horton

"Sometimes what's familiar sucks. Sometimes what's familiar is harming you. But because it feels predictable, it feels safe. That's not embodied safety — that's familiar safety." — Chelsea Horton

"The reason people end up in a psych hospital is because the one thing they didn't have enough of was being loved. That is our most fundamental human need." — Chelsea Horton

"Your emotions are not a problem to solve. They're an energy with which you can create. Suddenly you become a choreographer of life." — Chelsea Horton

"You're sitting on top of a treasure chest and you've never opened it. And what's inside? Your expression. Yourself. Your life. You finally get you back." — Chelsea Horton

religious trauma healing, embodiment, somatic healing, good girl programming, shame healing, nervous system regulation, inner child healing, creative expression, trauma informed healing, emotional processing, dance movement therapy, familiar safety, embodied safety, deconstruction, people pleasing, deep within podcast, Chelsea Horton, Marina Triner, healing embodied, somatic coaching

If you've ever felt completely out of control in a relationship — knowing it's wrong, unable to leave, ashamed of yourself for staying — this conversation is going to make you feel far less alone. Marina sits down with Andrea Ashley, host of Adult Child and The Shitshow podcast, who grew up in an alcoholic home, spent her teens in and out of rehabs, got sober at 19, and still found herself at rock bottom at 28 — trapped in trauma bonds she didn't yet have words for. Andrea shares the story she's never fully told before: the relationship that pulled her back in at her most under-resourced, the friendship betrayal that happened at the worst possible moment, and what it actually took to finally get out. This one is raw, real, and deeply human.

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Top Episode Quotes:

"As soon as my fear of abandonment got triggered, I was done. That's how quickly and easily a trauma bond can form." — Andrea Ashley

"The fear of abandonment can make someone ten million times more attractive. It's not real feeling — you're just deepening your attachment." — Andrea Ashley

"I was so sane and yet so insane at the same time. I could witness exactly what was happening and I still could not stop." — Andrea Ashley

"Tending to an alcoholic is the oldest role I know. My nervous system was just reaching for what it knows, what was comfortable." — Andrea Ashley

"I have abandonment trauma. I might freak out the first time you take too long to text me back. And I'm not embarrassed about that anymore. If it's the right person, that's not going to push them away." — Andrea Ashley

trauma bond, love addiction, abandonment wound, complex PTSD, adult child of alcoholics, nervous system healing, somatic healing, anxious attachment, fear of abandonment, intermittent reinforcement, codependency healing, childhood trauma, trauma recovery, emotional flashbacks, attachment healing, inner child healing, deep within podcast, Andrea Ashley, Marina Triner, trauma informed healing

If you grew up being the good girl — performing, people pleasing, shrinking yourself to stay safe and loved — this conversation is going to crack something open. Marina sits down with Luci Lampe, trauma-informed sex and relationship coach, four-time author, and award-winning singer-songwriter whose work has been featured in Forbes, the Huffington Post, CBS and Fox. Luci went from pastor's daughter and evangelical good girl to one of the most embodied, unapologetic voices in erotic liberation and spiritual reclamation — and together we trace exactly how that unravelling happened, what shame actually feels like in the body, and what it takes to stop performing and start living from your whole self.

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Top Episode Quotes:

"We do this to stay safe and to have connection and belonging. And then there just comes a point where something in life says — no more. This doesn't work anymore." — Luci Lampe

"You can't shame me if I don't shame myself. That is the power of removing the good girl mask." — Luci Lampe

"Shame loses its power when it's spoken. When you can name it out loud — to yourself, to someone else — it starts to loosen its grip." — Luci Lampe

"I was terrified that peace would equal death. Equal boredom. Until I realised peace is actually the foundation from which you can build the most full, vibrant life." — Luci Lampe

"The reorientation of your nervous system happens in consistent small choices. Before you know it, the thing you thought you needed loses its charge — and then it starts to feel unattractive." — Luci Lampe

good girl programming, shame healing, people pleasing, somatic healing, erotic liberation, spiritual awakening, nervous system regulation, trauma healing, relational patterns, self abandonment, inner child healing, embodiment, sexuality and trauma, religious trauma, feminine energy, emotional suppression, authentic self, deep within podcast, Luci Lampe, Marina Triner