In this episode of Change on Purpose, Ingrid sits down with Rebecca to explore ideas from her book, Beyond the Grind: Leading with Purpose, Not Pace, and challenge one of today’s most persistent leadership narratives: the “hustle badge.”
They unpack how leaders can unintentionally create a culture where being constantly available, answering midnight emails, and maintaining an overflowing calendar become signals of commitment and success. Rebecca shares practical ways leaders can model something different, from setting clearer response expectations and using delayed delivery to shifting the conversation from output to outcomes.
The conversation also explores why recovery isn’t the opposite of productivity—it’s part of sustaining it. When leaders normalize boundaries and true disconnection, they give people space to recharge, think creatively, and return ready to contribute.
It’s a conversation about replacing busy with intentional, pressure with purpose, and the grind with a more sustainable way to lead.
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