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Beyond Ordinary Women Podcast

Beyond Ordinary Women Podcast

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Everyone has influence, which is the basis of leadership. BOW’s bi-weekly episodes are purposed to prepare and empower Christian women for leadership and life. They feature our ministry team and women guests who share from their professional ministry experience. Whatever your calling – influencing your neighbors, coworkers, family, friends, leading small groups – this podcast is for you.© 2024 Beyond Ordinary Women Ministries キリスト教 スピリチュアリティ 聖職・福音主義
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  • RelationSHIFT 3: God’s Dream Team

    RelationSHIFT 3: God’s Dream Team
    2026/06/16
    Dr. Jackie Roese In this final episode of BOW's three-part series on relationships between men and women as the church, guest Dr. Jackie Roese describes living out that calling as God's dream team. Instead of seeing danger involving women, what if we saw one another as brothers and sisters in Christ? You won't want to miss this final episode that provides a glimpse of what a thriving partnership between the sexes would look like, God's dream team, and how that would affect the purpose of the church. Kay Daigle Resources If you missed them, go back and to the previous episodes in the RelationSHIFT series: 1. It's More Than Being Biblical and 2. It's More Than a Sex Narrative. All episodes are available on video only with others that deal with the issues of men and women. Timestamps: 00:21 Introduction to the series & Jackie 02:08 What does God's intention for men & women working together look like? 04:34 Understand our time & get educated. 06:42 Find a male advocate. 08:52 Jackie's example of a conversation with both men & women where women share their church experiences 10:47 Contacts & resources TranscriptKay >> Hi. I'm Kay Daigle of Beyond Ordinary Women Ministries. I'd like to welcome you to the third video in our series on It's Time for a RelationshipSHIFT. And we're talking about men and women working together as Christians. And I'm with Dr. Jackie Roese, who has a book, RelationSHIFT, as well as some other books. You can read about Jackie, and her material will be on our website as well. You can link to her ministry, The Marcella Project, as well as her material, because probably by now, if you've watched the first two, you want to hear more from Jackie. So we're about to do that. Now we're going to talk about God's dream team. We've talked about some of the problems with men and women in the church and some of the teaching that's behind some of that, some of the misconceptions that's behind that. And now we want to talk about what it would really look like. And I know as a woman who has volunteered in churches as well as been on staff, that sometimes you're quite aware that you have no voice in anything and you'd really like to change that. So how can we as women, affect some change in the church? Jackie >> Great. And that is the big million dollar question, isn't it? I would say first and foremost, we need brothers and sisters bringing change to the church, not just women. And we'll get to that. First and foremost, I think women need to get informed about God's bigger vision, about what did God intend for men and women to serve together collectively in the home, in the church, community, workplace. And I think probably one of the best descriptions out there right now is Carolyn Custis James' description of male and female called The Blessed Alliance. And I'm going to summarize it really quick. But basically, she says in Genesis 1 and 2, God formed the foundation of creation based on two load bearing walls. The first being humanity's relationship with God. And the second load bearing wall in which the world was supposed to operate was male and female relationships. Not just in marriage, which we tend to read only the Genesis passage in a marriage paradigm, but it's actually also talking about community brother, sister. And there's lots that I've written on that and so if that sounds different. But these two load-bearing walls is what the world was supposed to operate on. And together these two are given a mandate. They are to rule, subdue and fill the earth, which fill the earth does include procreation. But really beyond that, what it means is to create civilization. God throws raw material at them and says, have at it. Create societies, create cultures. And so that is the job of male and female and they do it together. So we need to see first and foremost that that is God's desire. We have done a great job of helping humanity reconnect with God.
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  • RelationSHIFT 2: It’s More than a Sex Narrative

    RelationSHIFT 2: It’s More than a Sex Narrative
    2026/06/02
    Dr. Jackie Roese Kay Daigle In this second episode of this series, Dr. Jackie Roese explains the problem with the church's sex narrative. Don't miss this important conversation as she talks with Dr. Kay Daigle about how making men's and women's relationships in the church all about sex is a mistake and why it matters. Many of us have been taught the church's sex narrative and may need to consider its effects. Other Resources Dr. Sandra Glahn on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood Dr. Sandra Glahn on Women in Public Ministry: 1. Revisiting the Issue as Individuals; 2. Revisiting the Issue as Churches. and 3. Misread Women of the Bible. This episode can be accessed on video along with the first episode, It's Time for a RelationSHIFT: It's more than being biblical. If you missed it, you can find the 1st BOW Podcast episode on seeking a RelationSHIFT between men and women in the church: It's More than Being Biblical. Timestamps: 00:21 Introductions 01:13 An example 02:52 Sensitivity toward those who have been abused 03:23 The danger narrative/danger-romance narrative in the Church. 07:36 Is this narrative biblical? 08:48 The biblical narrative TranscriptKay >> Hi. I'm Kay Daigle of Beyond Ordinary Women Ministries. I'd like to welcome you to the second in our series on It's Time for a RelationSHIFT dealing with men and women working together in the church. My guest is Dr. Jackie Roese. Jackie is the Founder and President of The Marcella Project. And you can read more about her and her ministry online on our website at BeyondOrdinaryWomen.org. And I hope you will take advantage of that so that you can even contact Jackie if you need to. Jackie, in our first video, we talked about the fact that the situation between men and women and the way that we work together in the church is more than just the biblical and theological beliefs that we have. In this video, we're going to talk about the fact that there's more involved than just a sex narrative. And I wanted to tell you that not too long ago, a friend highly praised a sermon that she had just heard, so I went online to hear the sermon. It was about men and women together. And I think in light of all of the various things, the sermon focused on how to avoid any kind of sexual contact with anyone of the other sex. But I was pretty horrified because really if you followed what it said, pretty much you wouldn't talk to many men. And he seemed to suggest he told a story about a pastor who was having a book signing and whose son said, why are you so rude to the women? He said, “Oh, they'll whisper their hotel room number in your ear. They'll give you their key.” It seemed to be perfectly fine, according to the sermon, to just be rude to women to avoid them tempting you sexually. So with that background of my horror, really, at thinking about how does somebody even do this in this age with work and things like that, I don't even think it's a practical solution. But even if it were, there's something wrong with treating people poorly just because you think they're a threat. So I want to hear what you had to say. Jackie >> Yeah. So, wow, there's a lot there. First, I would say not only is it wrong because it's not biblical. Kay >> Oh, yeah. Jackie >> So, and this person that you were listening to, they're still teaching this danger romance narrative as the only narrative we see in Scripture. And it's actually not the largest narrative we see. It's not the emphasis of the New Testament. And so I want to talk a little about that. Before I do, let me just say with the #MeToo #ChurchToo movement, there has been a lot of sexual exploitation. And I am very aware and want to be very sensitive to the fact that when there is sexual failure in the church or in the home, it's devastating. And I want to be sensitive to that because people have experienced that. It has blown up their church when their pastor has been inappropriate with a woman or...
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  • RelationSHIFT 1: It’s More than Being Biblical

    RelationSHIFT 1: It’s More than Being Biblical
    2026/05/19
    Dr. Jackie Roese Dr. Kay Daigle Dr. Jackie Roese joined Kay Daigle some time ago on video (before we started creating podcasts) to discuss Jackie's call for a shift in working relationships between men and women in the church. If you are in any type of leadership--whether paid or unpaid--in a church, you should hear this conversation. Jackie points out some of the walls that women often bump against when they attempt to get things done through men on church staffs. Thus we need a shift in working relationships between men and women in the church. You can now access the videos of the other two conversations. The podcast episodes will drop on 6/3/26 and 6/17/26: It's More Than a Sex Narrative God's Dream Team Other Related BOW Podcast Episodes Healthy Churches for Women Biblical Manhood & Womanhood Timestamps: 00:20 Introductions 01:15 Beyond the biblical passages, why do we need to relate better as men & women in the church? 04:04 This conversation is for women regardless of their position about what women can or cannot do in the church. 05:11 What walls that have nothing to do with the Bible sometimes get in the way of working well with men? TranscriptKay >> Hi. I'm Kay Daigle of Beyond Ordinary Women Ministries. I'd like to welcome you to our video series, It's Time for a RelationSHIFT. And our guest is Dr. Jackie Roese. I have known Jackie since we were in D.T.S. together. And I have been so looking forward to this conversation because this first video is going to be a conversation about It's More Than Being Biblical. And when we talk about a shift in relationships, we're talking about men and women in the church. With all that's been going on in the last couple of years with #metoo and #churchtoo, and all of those things, there's been a lot of conversation about men and women. And much of what I've heard, Jackie, is actually saying that it all has to do with our biblical view of women in the church. And yet you're saying it's more than the theology of women in the church, that there's more at stake here. So I'm very excited to hear what you have to say. Jackie >> Great. Well, thank you for having me here. I'm glad to be here. Yes. First, let me say it does have to do with the Bible. I've been with women who said, “Oh, we don't need to work with 1 Timothy 2. We don't need to figure out, you know, 1 Corinthians 11 or 14. We can just those are ancient texts. They don't apply to us in the modern world.” And so they just don't even want to deal with them. And I'm like, no, no time out. We have got to go and dig and do hard work in the text. We've got to understand those biblical passages. So it is about the Bible, but it is actually about more than the Bible. So what do I mean by that? We have men and women scholars who have in the conservative evangelical world who have studied these particular texts that seem to prohibit women from being fully inclusive in all different leadership roles in the church. And those men and women have landed on very different interpretations—same conservative evangelical faith, tradition, you know, orthodox theologians, and they disagree. Kay >> They're not, it's not a liberal/conservative thing. Jackie >> No, it is not someone way over here or someone way over here. I'm talking about people in your own circle. Theologians and scholars in your own circle disagree on the interpretation of those passages that seem to restrict women. So we have that, and we need to deal with that. That's first and foremost. But I've been a pastor for about 20 years and being a female pastor who happens to be gifted in preaching, I had to learn that it has to do with more than just what your stances on those particular passages. Kay >> So we don't want to scare off women from listening to us who might be more conservative than you and their perspective of those passages. Jackie >> Absolutely.
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