In this episode of Beyond B2B Marketing, host Lee Odden, CEO of TopRank Marketing, is joined by Stephanie Losee, Director and Executive Editor at Salesforce and a longtime pioneer of content marketing for B2B brands.

Stephanie's career spans journalism, brand publishing, and executive content leadership - from Fortune Magazine to Dell, Autodesk, Politico, and now Salesforce. In this conversation, she talks about how B2B content has evolved, why thought leadership remains essential, and what B2B marketers must rethink as AI reshapes discovery and engagement.

Highlights include:

• The changing role of thought leadership in a world of AI-powered search and content saturation
• Why trust and credibility are now central to full-funnel B2B performance
• How internal alignment with sales and customer success can unlock greater content impact
• The difference between content promotion and creating a true value exchange with customers
• What AI will-and won't-replace in high-quality editorial and content strategy

This conversation offers a ton of practical insight for B2B marketers, content leaders, and CMOs that are looking to build more effective, human-centered content strategies while navigating the rapid changes fueled by AI.

Guest: Stephanie Losee, Director & Executive Editor, Salesforce
Host: Lee Odden, CEO, TopRank Marketing
Podcast: Beyond B2B Marketing

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In this episode of Beyond B2B, host Lee Odden reconnects with longtime colleague Rishi Dave, Partner at Bain & Company and former CMO at Dun & Bradstreet, Vonage, and MongoDB. in this conversation they cover how B2B organizations are evolving from disconnected campaigns to modern growth systems-where AI accelerates performance but human creativity, story, and trust remain the true differentiators.

Rishi shares insights from Bain's work with leading global brands, including:

• How to move beyond "micro-productivity" AI pilots to enterprise-wide transformation.
• Why original research and thought leadership are essential to train AI and fuel differentiated content.
• The concept of "buyability" and how marketers can get their brand onto a buyer's Day-One List.
• What it takes to build category fame in a world where hidden buyers, peer validation, and emotional connection drive B2B decisions.
• How marketing leaders can design always-on, integrated systems that connect marketing, sales, and customer success for predictable growth.

Rishi also reflects on the creative side of leadership and how his love of science fiction sharpens his storytelling instincts. The conversation wraps up with advice for B2B marketers navigating the next era of human and AI collaboration.

In this episode of Beyond B2B, Lee Odden talks with Brian Solis, Head of Global Innovation at ServiceNow and author of Mindshift, about how AI, innovation, and human creativity are transforming the way B2B organizations build trust, lead change, and create value.

Brian shares how the ServiceNow Innovation Office helps companies bridge the gap between iteration and innovation using technology to imagine entirely new possibilities for the future. He also explains why B2B marketing transformation starts with how we think, not what we do, and how leaders can drum up the courage to unlearn, experiment, and lead with imagination.

We also explore the evolving role of B2B thought leadership in a world where AI-generated content has become ubiquitous. Brian breaks down what makes thought leadership credible and trustworthy, emphasizing empathy, generosity, and the power of human connection.

From the concept of "AI agents" reshaping the future of work to why trust has become the ultimate differentiator in business, this episode delivers both a practical and philosophical roadmap for B2B leaders navigating disruption with purpose and authenticity.

Key Questions Answered in This Episode:

• What does the Innovation Office at ServiceNow do, and what's its mission?
• Why does Brian say transformation starts with mindset, not technology?
• How can B2B leaders use AI as a "forcing function" for innovation instead of just automation?
• What's the difference between iteration and innovation, and why does it matter?
• How will AI and intelligent agents reshape the future of work?
• How can marketers retain human creativity in an AI-powered world?
• What makes great thought leadership content trustworthy?
• Why is empathy more powerful than expertise in building credibility?
• How should companies think about AI discoverability for thought leadership content?
• What does a "human-led, AI-powered" future really look like for B2B brands?