Host and executive director of the JOHN Veterans and First Responders treatment program, Matt VanLiere, speaks with Sanford Behavioral Health CEO Tracy Rogers, LPC, LMHC, NCC, and clinical director Tessa Sterling, LMSW, about the fear and stigma associated with asking for help for a mental health condition as a Veteran or First Responder. As a 30-year ex-police officer and person in recovery, Matt has firsthand experience of the silence that surrounds mental health. Tracy and Tessa offer clinical and leadership perspectives.