Dr. Joel Rosen:Alright, so our next guest is Christian Drapeau. He is a stem cell scientist, author, and creator of this first stem cell supplement. He holds a graduate degree in neurophysiology, and he’s been involved in medical research for 30-plus years, of which the last 20 years have specifically been dedicated to stem cell research. He’s the author of five books, including the best-selling Cracking the Stem Cell Code, he has published dozens of scientific papers on brain research and biological process processes, which we’ll be asking about endogenous stem cell mobilization. He’s lectured over 50 countries on stem cell research. He is known by scientists, physicians, and biohackers alike as the expert and pioneer in this field. Thank you so much for being here today. Christian, I could go on but I want to get the good stuff here today. Christian Drapeau:Thank you. Thank you. My pleasure. Yeah, so Dr. Joel Rosen:I you know, I like to prepare for these, these interviews, and I’ve done some research I know that in 94, you started with your blue-green algae research, but it wasn’t really until 2001 Were the article that you read turned blood into the brain. And like you said, as well, a lot of these times these amazing research articles come out, but they don’t register a glitch in the radar. Why was it that that article turning blood into the brain was so profoundly changing for you? Christian Drapeau:Well, to tell the truth, this article was sent to me soon after it was published, and it sat on my desk for probably three, or four months. So I read it the first time and it did not register. And I was cleaning my desk, and that paper was still there on my desk, and I read it again. And then that’s when slowly the thoughts started to trickle, and we need to look at it in the context of where we were at the time. So we had published not long before, that polysaccharides from that blue-green algae, were stimulating NK cell migration in tissues. So in the back of my mind was that data that there was something it is blue-green algae that mobilized immune cells taken in very broadly, my background is brain research, I know, we know, we were told that we cannot make new neurons. So finally reading that paper, and reading that stem cells from the bone marrow, could go to the brain and become a brain cell, which is a type of cell that we were told in neurology, you cannot regenerate your brain. I knew from just my basic class of med class that stem cells are only known to be precursors to blood cells. And suddenly, I’m thinking about when we were talking about the release of stem cells migrating into a tissue, and we showed that blue-green algae were supporting the migration of NK cells. So this sort of amorphous idea started to shape itself in my brain thinking that what if that plant could support the migration of stem cells in tissues? So it’s just reading it? And it started to be an answer a potential answer to a question that, that we had for several years, we did not have a way of explaining how this plant was leading to benefits touching so many aspects of human health. Right? Dr. Joel Rosen:Okay, so going forward from there, because I want to get your insight on this, and how research continues to propel us forward. But there’s been a lot of skepticism about the landscape and the controversy of stem cells. So given that, that article just sort of planted the seed for you, Christian, to tell us about where we come from, or what the initial, I guess, the landscape was, in terms of how stem cells and even more plant-based support for stem cells has been was initially received and where it is now? You know, Christian Drapeau:I liked these questions, because, to me, everything that we’re facing, and we’re looking at right now, in terms of what we have done with plants, but also the whole landscape of stem cell research, is an amazing example of the real life of scientific discoveries and scientific development, the interaction of scientific development, with business development, with policy development. All of this was so complex that if we knew today, so if we knew then what we know today, I guarantee you, we would not have today, the landscape that we have, things would have evolved differently. So and I’ll come back to that in a second. So when the first observations were made, we’re in early 2000 and 2001, that stem cells known for decades to be precursors to blood cells, were finally known to have the ability to become cells of many different tissues. At first, the observation or the belief was that, Okay, we’re ready to accept that they can be more than just blood cells, but we’re not ready to accept that they can become everything, yet. The data was there, right there. When I’m talking about the process of scientific discovery, we can observe and document the only things that we can accept, if there’s something that we cannot accept, we can observe it ...
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