Avery Adams is a producer, musician, and chef, and Kevin W. Smith is a writer and radio host. We talk about Bon Iver’s fourth album, I,i (Jagjaguar), released on August 9, 2019, an 8.8 Best New Music on Pitchfork. Also: Covid listening, learning to produce music, being a music writer in 2007, For Emma vinyl sales, the cover, the titles and the “branding,” his non-falsetto register, Naeem drums, sliding on cardboard, no click, Texas, Hornsby, Beck, this record’s purpose, the “moments” on this album, “Hey, Ma,” bass lines, Aaron Rogers and Justin Vernon interview circa 2019, The Bee Gees, and where this album stands against the discography, Radiohead, Animal Collective, Of Montreal, and indulging creative impulses.

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Ian Grant is the host of the Jokermen podcast. We discuss Bon Iver's 2016 record 22, a Million (Jagjaguar). After dipping into the 9.0 Pitchfork review, we talk about a For Emma sunrise show at the Hollywood Forever Cemetery, having his mind blown by this record in impact (and me ignoring it) in 2016, that year's prez election, the OP-1 synth, “It might be over soon,” Kanye briefly, Stevie Nicks singing “Wild Heart," listening Radiohead and Bon Iver while flying, “Staying at the Ace Hotel,” don’t trust Spot*fy lyrics, “the days have no numbers,” saying these song titles out loud, Taylor in C0vid, and Jokermen's Beach Boys journey.

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Mark Richardson is former Editor in Chief at Pitchfork and current Rock and Pop Critic at the Wall Street Journal. We talk about the 2011 album Bon Iver, Bon Iver, for which Mark wrote the Pitchfork review (9.5). We talk about the anticipation around this record, fusing adult-contemporary and the avant-garde, Animal Collective, Bonnie Raitt, 80s R&B, sincerity vs. irony, is this “sad” music?, a careful use of arrangement and dynamics, Heath Ledger, Shakespearian verse, “Holocene,” the albums’ sequencing, the midwestern-ness of it all, Kanye West, commas in the album titles, Rubber Soul/Revolver, we bow down to “Beth/Rest,” a bit of SABLE, fABLE, and Mark tells a story about how this record could have gotten a 10.

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Chris DeVille is Managing Editor at Stereogum and author of the book Such Great Heights, available for preorder now. We talk about the 2007 Bon Iver debut album, For Emma, Forever Ago. Also going cabin-mode in the Wisconsin winter, this album's lore, the indie landscape in '08, Pitchfork kingmaking, The OC, Garden State, Popt*mism, gentrifying indie music, hearing "Skinny Love" at my bad recession-era office job, "Flume" as a thesis, stacking falsetto harmonies, the lyrics, staring out windows at crows, Sable, bass-fishing boats, "Re: Stacks" and final tracks, cooking with minimal ingredients, Blood Bank EP, the pursuit of hipness and the evolution of indie rock. Order Chris's book.

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Michele Catalano has posted prolifically about music on the internet for years. She’s 62 years old and recently launched ihavethatonvinyl.com. We talk seeking out new music as we age, classic rock, new wave, 2015 was a bad music year for her, she bought her new website’s domain in 2004 and forgot she had it, writing about her record collection, Songs for the Deaf, Brand New, Covid collecting, any regretful purges of records?, we’re bullish on CDs, Aztec Camera, her favorite Beatles album, a diabolical record-organizing system, Kevin Devine, the best music years of our lives, The Doors, is Eric Clapton about to have a moment?, Yacht Rock, the Weezer discography, deactivating her Twitter, humans sharing music with humans, and what she has in store for the site: ihavethatonvinyl.com/

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Longmont Potion Castle is a beloved recording artist and anonymous prank caller from Colorado. Interview starts at 11 mins. We talk about touring-band soundtracks, flipwild, deep and uncontrollable laughter, bruschotti, piglets, “After the Deluge” by Sodom, his daily conversation style, the Longmont documentary, whether his calls are mean-spirited, squid sandwiches, Otis, he’s not a comedian, a complete Darwinian society, his funky relationship with language, a feral bodybuilder, looping effects, his childhood court-ordered therapy, calling celebrities like Alex Tr*beck, LPC III, music industry evolution/devolution, Spot*fy, what are nü metal DJs doing when they scratch those records?, monetizing weird stuff, new Longmont incoming, we call my friend Matthew, Squid on my Side, Yucatan Suckerman, and the hottest new fusion band out of Colorado.

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Dylan Tupper Rupert is the host of the podcast series, Groupies. It's the latest season of KCRW's Lost Notes. She's also Producer Emeritus for Bandsplain. We talk about birth control, the dawn of punk, a scandalous take on Cosmo in 1971, making a show about sexual relationships between rock stars and teens, that Cormac McCarthy Vanity Fair story, the vampiric energy of Jimmy Page, Pamela Des Barres, Dee Dee Keel, empowerment vs. exploitation, the mid-2000s Seattle scene, The Vera Project, The Lashes, her feelings about LA, Blood Brothers, throwing a music fest on Orcas Island, and the Jackson Browne For Everyman house. Groupies is live now on your podcast app.

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