Avery Adams is a producer, musician, and chef, and Kevin W. Smith is a writer and radio host. We talk about Bon Iver’s fourth album, I,i (Jagjaguar), released on August 9, 2019, an 8.8 Best New Music on Pitchfork. Also: Covid listening, learning to produce music, being a music writer in 2007, For Emma vinyl sales, the cover, the titles and the “branding,” his non-falsetto register, Naeem drums, sliding on cardboard, no click, Texas, Hornsby, Beck, this record’s purpose, the “moments” on this album, “Hey, Ma,” bass lines, Aaron Rogers and Justin Vernon interview circa 2019, The Bee Gees, and where this album stands against the discography, Radiohead, Animal Collective, Of Montreal, and indulging creative impulses.

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Ian Grant is the host of the Jokermen podcast. We discuss Bon Iver's 2016 record 22, a Million (Jagjaguar). After dipping into the 9.0 Pitchfork review, we talk about a For Emma sunrise show at the Hollywood Forever Cemetery, having his mind blown by this record in impact (and me ignoring it) in 2016, that year's prez election, the OP-1 synth, “It might be over soon,” Kanye briefly, Stevie Nicks singing “Wild Heart," listening Radiohead and Bon Iver while flying, “Staying at the Ace Hotel,” don’t trust Spot*fy lyrics, “the days have no numbers,” saying these song titles out loud, Taylor in C0vid, and Jokermen's Beach Boys journey.

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Mark Richardson is former Editor in Chief at Pitchfork and current Rock and Pop Critic at the Wall Street Journal. We talk about the 2011 album Bon Iver, Bon Iver, for which Mark wrote the Pitchfork review (9.5). We talk about the anticipation around this record, fusing adult-contemporary and the avant-garde, Animal Collective, Bonnie Raitt, 80s R&B, sincerity vs. irony, is this “sad” music?, a careful use of arrangement and dynamics, Heath Ledger, Shakespearian verse, “Holocene,” the albums’ sequencing, the midwestern-ness of it all, Kanye West, commas in the album titles, Rubber Soul/Revolver, we bow down to “Beth/Rest,” a bit of SABLE, fABLE, and Mark tells a story about how this record could have gotten a 10.

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