Betsy Kent is a world expert on the formation of the Ideal Customer Profile. Since 2018, Be Visible has paved the way in identifying the perfect audience for businesses. Now with MeclabsAI, Betsy is creating Simulators for ICPs and that is transformational. Empower your business with smarter, faster, and more effective marketing driven by AI Agents and Customer Simulators.

Kevin and Graham introduce the podcast and welcome their guest, Betsy Kent, an expert in the creation of an Ideal Customer Profile (ICP). They provide background on how Kevin and Graham started the podcast years ago after meeting through an online marketing course.

Betsy explains that an ICP is a detailed profile of a business's perfect buyer - the person or people who will see immediate personal benefit in the offering and are in a position to say yes. She shares how she developed her own methodology for creating ICPs when working with clients, going beyond just demographics to deeply understand the customer's mindset, emotions, and decision-making process.

Betsy provides a case study of how she worked with a high-end dentist client to identify their ideal patients, leading to immediate improvements in how the dentist interacted with and converted prospects. She emphasizes the importance of truly understanding your target customer, rather than just casting a wide net.

Betsy discusses how she is now using AI to take her ICP process to the next level, creating "buyer simulators" that allow businesses to test ideas and content with a highly detailed, interactive version of their ideal customer. She explains the benefits of this approach compared to traditional market research methods.

Betsy shares her vision for making her ICP and buyer simulator tools more accessible and user-friendly for businesses to use themselves. The hosts and Betsy also discuss her other interests and plans for the future. The hosts thank Betsy for being a fantastic guest on the podcast.

Graham Arrowsmith

Graham founded Finely Fettled ten years ago to help business owners and marketers market to affluent and high-net-worth customers. Graham founder of MicroYES, a Partner for MeclabsAI, which combines the world's biggest source of 10,000 marketing experiments with AI. Find Graham on LinkedIn.

Kevin Appleby

Kevin specialises in finance transformation and implementing business change. He's the COO of GrowCFO, which provides both community and CPD-accredited training designed to grow the next generation of finance leaders. You can find Kevin on LinkedIn and at kevinappleby.com