How to Stop People-Pleasing: Boundaries, Codependency, and Internal Safety with Barb Nangle
On the Self Authority Podcast, host Elaine Belsen talks with boundaries coach and Fragmented to Whole podcast host Barb Nangle about why many women struggle to say no and prioritize their needs without guilt.
Barb shares how inviting a homeless parishioner into her home in 2015 led her to confront lifelong codependency, people-pleasing, and self-abandonment, and how 12-step recovery programs (Al-Anon, CoDA, ACA, and OA) helped her reparent herself, lose over 100 pounds, and build healthy boundaries.
They discuss women’s socialization under patriarchy, approval-seeking disguised as kindness, external versus internal boundaries, creating internal safety through nervous system support, ending gossip and victim mentality, and how changing personal dynamics can ripple into workplaces and culture.
00:00 Why Women Feel Guilty
01:39 Barb Meets Dan
03:22 Discovering Al Anon
05:45 Finding ACA Reparenting
08:47 From Recovery to Boundaries
12:36 Codependent Bottom Moment
16:35 Why Women Struggle
18:44 Approval Seeking Trap
23:10 Internal Safety Boundaries
28:26 When Helpers Feel Guilty
31:51 Gossip Indirect Communication
33:15 Gossip Culture Wakeup
34:02 Quitting Gossip in Recovery
36:01 Taking Ownership at Work
39:16 Resentment as Boundary Signal
41:29 Tools for Self Trust
44:52 Info Not Ammo Mindset
46:14 Reasonable vs Unrealistic Expectations
50:08 Discomfort Growth vs Dysfunction
53:23 Support Systems and Reciprocity
57:53 Changing Culture Through Self Authority
01:01:30 Internal Safety Takeaway
01:03:01 Closing and Listener Outro
At 52, Barb Nangle’s life transformed through 12-step recovery, after decades of therapy merely skimmed the surface. Addressing codependence unlocked healing from intergenerational trauma, childhood wounds, and compulsive overeating. Learning to build healthy boundaries revolutionized her relationships, impacting her professional life at Yale. Formerly masking her struggles with substance use and overeating, she shed over 100 pounds and confronted her deep-seated negativity and fear. Driven by a desire for growth and social justice, Barb now empowers professional women to break patterns of self-neglect. Through boundary coaching, speaking, and her podcast, "Fragmented to Whole," she guides women to build internal safety, reclaim their power and say no to what no longer serves them, fostering a world where inner change drives societal impact.
New internal safety course: "Boundaries That Hold: How to Stop Overriding Yourself in Real Time
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