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Actor and funeral director Abi Pattenden joins me for a walk to Old Hamsey Church, where her grandparents are buried, and where memory refuses to stay still.

We walk just north of Lewes, tracing the path her grandparents took when they moved from Wales after her grandfather found work nearby as a signalman. We pass the house Abi remembers from childhood, before arriving at the churchyard that still holds her family story in the ground.

Along the way, we talk about her work as a funeral director, how death is handled and avoided in modern life, and what happens when grief becomes part of your working day rather than something whispered about behind closed doors.

This is a walk about work, ancestry, and the strange calm that arrives when death is no longer treated as a stranger.

Season Two of the story pilgrim walks with people — their histories, their callings, and the places that shaped them.

buen camino, and keep listening.

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James Harkin, co-host of the hit podcast No Such Thing As A Fish and Head Researcher on BBC’s QI, joins me for a walking, and golfing, conversation about curiosity, childhood, and how a life quietly takes shape.

We met at Deane Golf Club, the course where James learned the game as a boy, and played a round while talking through his early years in Bolton, school days, falling sideways into research, and ending up at the sharp end of British comedy and television.

Between missed putts and gentle rivalry, James reflects on how curiosity becomes a craft, how knowledge and passion turns into a career. The power of saying no, and taking a risk can be a good thing.

This is not a studio interview. It’s a walk, a game, a life in motion.

Season Two of the story pilgrim turns towards people, walking with those who shape how I think, work, and notice the world.

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Lagos: Between Things is a quiet walking reflection recorded on the edges of a hotel, between flights, between seasons, between certainty and whatever comes next.

There’s nothing performative about this walk. No attempt to decode Lagos or turn the city into a backdrop for insight. Instead, this episode sits in the in-between: raising the bar for the story pilgrim, wondering why connection is harder to cultivate than ideas, and asking what it really takes to invite people to walk and talk without hiding behind roles, status, or polish.

This is a conversation about momentum, hesitation, and the strange vulnerability of asking others to join you when the path isn’t clearly marked. It’s also a gentle invitation — to listeners, to future walkers, to anyone who’s been circling a question rather than answering it.

If you’re standing between what was and what might be, this one walks beside you rather than ahead.

buen camino, and keep listening.