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  • e235 lallan – art from the soil

    e235 lallan – art from the soil
    2025/07/11
    My advice to artists would be drop every garb that you have, drop every piece of knowledge that you think you have. Head to the jungles, head to the rural places. We are living in a time of crisis. We need artists more than the scientists. We need artists more than the healers. We need artists more than anything because arts connect everybody. We need songs, we need stories, we need pictures, we need circles, we need Ubuntu to prosper. Traditional Western ways of, colonized ways of working will not save us as a species. They're not going to help us. They're only going to destroy. And the traditionally arts ecosystem exists like that everywhere in the world. Now we know that it's been going on for hundreds of years. We need to destroy that as artists and we need to head to where our roots are, which is in the soil. And our arts come from there.I met Lallan (Anirudh Lallan Choudhry) at the Sunshine Himalayan Cottage facility in the Tirthan Valley, Himachal Pradesh, India. The managing host of this facility, Panki Sood, introduced us. Lallan, is a multi-disciplinary artist and socially engaged artist who practice is ‘rooted deep in working with the earthen, on a severe lookout for the conditions which enable genuine co-authors within communities, forming narratives through extra-human design and enquiry’. He is the founder of Baadii, a rural art-house in Himachal Pradesh where he currently lives and is also working on community arts projects at Sunshine Himalayan Cottage with Panki and his team, which you’ll hear about in a few minutes. I want to thank Panki for introducing us and Lallan for this first conversation. Note: You can hear his latest musical production, Kyun, here). Below is a rough translation of the lyrics :Why is the world caught up in making excuses stillWhy are the machines continuously pumping smoke in the airBy whose permission did we dump all the garbage in the sea And who are the idiots building these dams trying to tie free rivers What is all this and why is this evenWhat is this world that humans are desiring? If everything is one day bound to be left here on the groundThen what is the use of constant fighting, over and over again?And why is it that we fill bombs and continue to drop them on our very own children? We are intoxicated by the notions of borders and religionAnd continue to revel in the blashpemy of it all So why is this evenThat destruction and more destruction is the only thing we want? Those who can be quiet and just listen, where are they?Why are my torchbearers full of greed who want to sell the world?Those who divide the we into you and meWhy has everyone chosen them to lead?Those who dry down the rivers and erase forests Whar are they doing in everyone's share of the earthWhy are the deprived, still deprivedWhat kind of progress is this? Wherever you see, its filled of smokeWhat kind of a fire of hatred have they fueled Douse it, douse it, douse itLet us breathe, of whatever breath is left Whatever little is left of life Might also die, if you do not stop!Show notes generated by Whisper Transcribe AI:Action pointsEmbrace traditional wisdom by learning from rural communities and their sustainable practices.Create art that addresses socio-political issues and promotes cultural movements.Build community art spaces that foster collaboration between artists, naturalists, and local populations.Highlight the cultural importance of ecological regions through art and storytelling.Negate purely aesthetic work in favor of art that drives social and ecological change.Story PreviewImagine an artist who champions rural wisdom, bridging ancient traditions with contemporary art to spark cultural and ecological movements. Discover how Lalan is building vibrant arts ecosystems in the Himalayas, proving that art can be a powerful catalyst for change.Chapter Summary00:00 The Call for Artists01:29 Setting Up an Arts Ecosystem03:25 Learning from Rural Communities06:30 Art as a Medium of Connection08:06 The Journey of a Self-Taught Artist10:01 Creating Impact Through Community Art12:28 Current Projects and Future AspirationsFeatured QuotesWe need artists more than the scientists. We need artists more than the healers… because arts connect everybody.The traditionally arts ecosystem exists like that everywhere in the world…We need to destroy that as artists and we need to head to where our roots are, which is in the soil.How can you as an artist live and create work in a rural so called remote setting where nobody even expects a doctor or an engineer to even work. So how can you make art there? Behind the StoryLallan’s journey from documentary filmmaker to socially engaged artist is rooted in a deep connection to rural communities and a desire to address pressing ecological and cultural issues. His work challenges the dominance of Western artistic models, advocating for a return to traditional wisdom and collaborative art practices that empower ...
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  • e234 emily marie séguin – a sense of community

    e234 emily marie séguin – a sense of community
    2025/07/10
    Alongside the responsibility of holding people accountable and calling out what they see as unjust, I think that there's also an element of hope with artists, even when we're maybe a little bit melancholic, or even when we're in heavier periods in our lives, the act of creating denotes hope, because why would you create something if you didn't believe that it was going to lead to something? Why would you put energy into something if you didn't hope that it would nurture either a change or a feeling of belonging or something that'll bring people together and that will create a sense of community?My conversation with Emily Marie Séguin, a Franco-Ontarian 2-spirited performer, musician, theatre creator and visual artist of settlers and Anishinabe descent who creates work to recognize those who walked before her, and to support those who will after her. I wanted to speak to Emily because she is member of Éclore, a collective that builds bridges between artistic, environmental and activist communities, bringing people together and building hope for a fairer, more sustainable future. I had already spoken with Léa Vandycke, about Éclore, in episode 164 of balado conscient, and so Emily is about to tell us, in English, the story of Éclore from her point but she will also talk about her own work and vision as an indigenous artist, such as her G’zaagiin maleńki – I promise you a forestproject. I also had a French language conversation with Emily, see balado conscient épisode 168.Show notes generated by Whisper Transcribe AIAction pointsDiscover the mission of Éclore and how it fosters collaboration between artists, scientists, and activists.Explore the role of art in advocating for social causes, environmental protection, and Indigenous sovereignty.Learn about Emily’s project, G’zaagiin maleńki – je te promets une forêt and its goal of connecting young people with the sounds and importance of nature.Understand the significance of Indigenous voices in land-based solutions for a just and sustainable world.Gain actionable steps for artists and cultural workers to engage in advocacy and support grassroots movements.Story PreviewImagine a world where art, environmentalism, and activism intertwine, creating a tapestry of hope for a sustainable future. Emily Marie Séguin, a passionate Two-Spirit artist, shares her journey of bridging these worlds through her work with Éclore and her dedication to honouring the land.Chapter Summary00:00 The Duality of Art: Accountability and Hope01:23 Introducing Emily Marie Seguin03:44 The Birth of Éclore: A Collective for Change07:15 Art as a Reflection of Nature11:43 Taking Action: Empowering Artists and Cultural WorkersFeatured QuotesThe act of creating denotes hope, because why would you create something if you didn’t believe that it was going to lead to something?I think that the fight towards a more just and sustainable world, especially in a land-based context, needs to include Indigenous voices.Without hope, we wouldn’t do anything, we wouldn’t act, we wouldn’t continue to fight.Behind the StoryEmily’s involvement with Éclore stems from a deep-seated passion for plants, nature, and advocating for social justice. Inspired by the vision of Éclore's founders, she joined the collective to help build a community that serves as a resource for artists and fosters conversations across diverse disciplines, all united by a common goal of protecting the land and promoting sovereignty. *END NOTES FOR ALL EPISODESHey conscient listeners, I’ve been producing the conscient podcast as a learning and unlearning journey since May 2020 on un-ceded Anishinaabe Algonquin territory (Ottawa). It’s my way to give back.In parallel with the production of the conscient podcast and its francophone counterpart, balado conscient, I I publish fee ‘a calm presence' Substack see https://acalmpresence.substack.com.Your feedback is always welcome at claude@conscient.ca and/or on social media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, Threads, BlueSky, Mastodon, Tik Tok, YouTube and Substack.I am grateful and accountable to the earth and the human labour that provided me with the privilege of producing this podcast, including the toxic materials and extractive processes behind the computers, recorders, transportation systems and infrastructure that made this production possible. Claude SchryerLatest update on July 8, 2025
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  • e233 andrew freiband – care as artistic practice

    e233 andrew freiband – care as artistic practice
    2025/07/09
    If we start to pay attention to what we pay attention to then we start to naturally slow down. We disconnect from the urgency, the crisis, and we start to realize that care, and I don't just mean care for one another, although that's a piece of it, but care also for our surroundings, care for our time, care for those nearest to us. That is where it begins. That is valuable work that is not recognized. I think that is what we can do on a day-to-day basis. That over a long term becomes artistic practice and becomes culture.My conversation withknowledge producer, artist, facilitator and director of the Artists’ Literacies Institute, Andrew Freiband. Our conversation was recorded, via Zoom, on April 18, 2025. My previous conversation with Andrew was on conscient podcast e13 in 2020 called weaving art into action, when we both participants in the Creative Climate Leadership course USA. Five years later, I was happy to discover that Andrew, informed by the work of British artists and writer Alana Jelinek, continues to weave art into action, notably with through his Systems Thinking for Socially Engaged Artists project, a seminar and dialogic discussion activity that introduces artists to basic concepts of systems science so we fleshed this out and Andrew and also talked about how the arts can be more useful to the near term and long-term future of our species. Show notes generated by Whisper Transcribe AIAction pointsRecognize the value of artists’ unique knowledge and perspectives beyond just their art.Understand artists as systems thinkers who can connect various systems, including economic and power systems.Challenge the notion that art should not be useful and embrace its potential for practical application.Pay attention to what you pay attention to, cultivating care for surroundings, time, and relationships.Consider the long-term cultural impact of artistic practices, which can outlast political and social structures.Story PreviewImagine a world grappling with mass grief during a pandemic, where traditional rituals are impossible. Discover how artists stepped up to create new ways to mourn and connect, revealing the profound value of art beyond aesthetics.Chapter Summary00:00 The Power of Attention01:01 Revisiting Conversations02:50 Art in Crisis: The COVID-19 Response05:15 Creating the Artist’s Grief Deck07:16 Rethinking the Role of Artists10:07 Navigating Systems and Agency12:21 The Intersection of Art and Activism13:50 The Slow Work of CultureFeatured QuotesIf we start to pay attention to what we pay attention to, we start to naturally slow down.Artists are valuable not for the art, but valuable for what they know and how they know it.Artists attention is enormously valuable…maybe the key currency of being an artist that we pay attention.Behind the StoryDuring the height of the COVID-19 pandemic, disaster relief agencies faced a challenge they weren’t equipped for: mass grief in isolation. Recognizing artists’ historical role in creating rituals, they sought help in developing new tools for mourning. This led to the creation of the Artist’s Grief Deck, a project highlighting the practical and connective power of art. *END NOTES FOR ALL EPISODESHey conscient listeners, I’ve been producing the conscient podcast as a learning and unlearning journey since May 2020 on un-ceded Anishinaabe Algonquin territory (Ottawa). It’s my way to give back.In parallel with the production of the conscient podcast and its francophone counterpart, balado conscient, I I publish fee ‘a calm presence' Substack see https://acalmpresence.substack.com.Your feedback is always welcome at claude@conscient.ca and/or on social media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, Threads, BlueSky, Mastodon, Tik Tok, YouTube and Substack.I am grateful and accountable to the earth and the human labour that provided me with the privilege of producing this podcast, including the toxic materials and extractive processes behind the computers, recorders, transportation systems and infrastructure that made this production possible. Claude SchryerLatest update on July 8, 2025
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  • e232 meghan moe beitiks - angles of consequence

    e232 meghan moe beitiks - angles of consequence
    2025/07/08
    Even being confronted with something that is weird or uncomfortable: it’s character growth. You have to ask the question: why is this person doing this weird thing? It's a good exercise in empathy, to be perfectly honest. Why is this person doing this thing? Why does that make me uncomfortable? What, what is it about my perception that has shaped this experience for me? I feel like those are really essential questions for us to be constantly asking ourselves, especially in an age where there's a lot of discord, a lot of dissent and a lot of disagreement. And the better we understand ourselves, the better we're able to engage with humans who are different than us.My conversation with Meghan Moe Beitiks, assistant professor in theatre at Concordia University in Montreal. Meghan Moe is an artist and designer working with associations and disassociations of culture, nature and structure. Our mutual friend Ian Garrett thought we might get along. We did. Our conversation focused on Meghan Moe’s Angles of Consequence project, a season of site-specific performances with Canadian performers to create work with reflected sunlight in key sites of climate advocacy and destruction in Québec. Meghan Moe and I had tea in Montreal. It was a very, enlightening, conversation. Show notes generated by Whisper Transcribe AI:Action pointsRecognize art’s crucial role in processing emotions and spreading information during crises.Explore the use of reflected sunlight in art to highlight climate change issues.Support Indigenous resistance against fossil fuel expansion as an effective climate action.Consider the impact of positionality (literal and cultural) on our perspectives.Utilize resources like Canada Green Tools to calculate and reduce the carbon footprint of events.Story PreviewImagine art that dances with the sun, revealing hidden truths about our planet’s climate crisis. Megan Moe’s ‘Angles of Consequence’ uses reflected sunlight in powerful performances, sparking dialogue and demanding action.Chapter Summary00:00 The Power of Empathy01:05 Introducing Megan Moe01:31 Angles of Consequence03:08 Art as a Tool for Understanding04:35 Reflected Sunlight and Climate Change07:09 Indigenous Resistance and Environmental Impact09:49 Collaborating with NatureFeatured QuotesWe also need moments of digestion…to absorb and understand what we’ve experienced and what we’ve learned.The sun is not going to show up on your time. It doesn’t care whether you’re giving a performance.Being able to witness that up close and consider what that human is doing in relationship to your own humanness, I feel like makes us all clearer, more grounded and better.Behind the StoryMegan Moe’s project, ‘Angles of Consequence’, emerged from pandemic isolation and a fascination with reflected sunlight. It evolved into a series of site-specific performances addressing climate change in Québec, highlighting both the destructive forces of fossil fuels and the powerful resistance of Indigenous communities. The project aims to create an open-access guide, encouraging global engagement with sunlight performance art. *END NOTES FOR ALL EPISODESHey conscient listeners, I’ve been producing the conscient podcast as a learning and unlearning journey since May 2020 on un-ceded Anishinaabe Algonquin territory (Ottawa). It’s my way to give back.In parallel with the production of the conscient podcast and its francophone counterpart, balado conscient, I I publish fee ‘a calm presence' Substack see https://acalmpresence.substack.com.Your feedback is always welcome at claude@conscient.ca and/or on social media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, Threads, BlueSky, Mastodon, Tik Tok, YouTube and Substack.I am grateful and accountable to the earth and the human labour that provided me with the privilege of producing this podcast, including the toxic materials and extractive processes behind the computers, recorders, transportation systems and infrastructure that made this production possible. Claude SchryerLatest update on July 8, 2025
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  • e231 kelly wilhelm – what can we contribute?

    e231 kelly wilhelm – what can we contribute?
    2025/07/07
    Part of the answer to that question lies in the arts and culture understanding the role it can have in a time of collapse or crisis, and to understand that itself is not in crisis. I think that's a big point because we hear a lot right now around the crisis that is happening in cultural institutions and in the arts. And in fact, the crisis that is happening is in our world, right? It's an ecological crisis, it's a world order crisis, it's a humanitarian crisis. The arts themselves have a lot to contribute to these moments in terms of meaning, belonging, helping us to process those crises. But the arts themselves are not in a crisis. What we can do, though, is place ourselves within those larger crises and ask the question, what can we contribute that's of meaning and value to people as they experience these other things that are really significant in the world that we're living in right now.My conversation with consultant and strategist in public policy, arts, culture and creative industries, Kelly Wilhelm, who currently leads the Cultural Policy Hub at OCAD University in Tkaronto. Kelly is a long-time friend and colleague with whom I have had many passionate conversations about art, culture, leadership, life and how to have fun through it all. This conversation was no exception. We talked a lot about precarity in the arts sector but also its resilience. You’ll hear me refer to Kelly’s A New Project on Precarity and Sustainability article in the recording. I love the way Kelly always finds a way to ask good and timely questions.Episode notes generated by Whisper Transcribe AIAction pointsChallenge traditional leadership models in arts organizations to foster inclusivity and relevance.Advocate for the arts and culture in broader public policy discussions, including areas like AI.Examine the financial conditions and precarity affecting individual artists and creators.Re-evaluate the not-for-profit model in the arts to identify sustainable governance structures.Promote collaboration between arts organizations and other sectors to contribute to democratic processes and public good.Story PreviewWhat if the arts aren’t in crisis, but are actually a crucial part of the solution to global challenges? Kelly Wilhelm challenges conventional thinking and inspires us to reimagine the role of cultural institutions in today’s world. This episode dives into leadership, equity, and the resilience of the arts sector. Chapter Summary00:00 The Role of Arts in Crisis01:16 A Conversation with Kelly Wilhelm02:25 Connecting Cultural Institutions to Communities04:53 The Changing Role of Cultural Institutions06:08 Rethinking Leadership in the Arts08:51 The Cultural Policy Hub at OCAD University10:51 Addressing Precarity in the Arts SectorFeatured QuotesThe arts themselves have a lot to contribute to these moments in terms of meaning, belonging, helping us to process those crises.We need to be much more flexible in how we think about structure and how we think about how we deliver that meaning.How do we ensure that these institutions are led, that they… are reflective and meaningful to the people that they are there to serve.Behind the StoryKelly Wilhelm’s journey began with a concern about the disconnect between cultural institutions and the communities they serve. Beginning her career in Toronto in the late 1990s, Kelly saw the contrast between the work show and stories told in public art galleries and museums, and the diverse communities outside their doors. She became determined to bridge this gap. Her work at the Cultural Policy Hub at OCAD University is an example of her commitment to equity, relevance, and the power of the arts to create meaningful change. *END NOTES FOR ALL EPISODESHey conscient listeners, I’ve been producing the conscient podcast as a learning and unlearning journey since May 2020 on un-ceded Anishinaabe Algonquin territory (Ottawa). It’s my way to give back.In parallel with the production of the conscient podcast and its francophone counterpart, balado conscient, I I publish fee ‘a calm presence' Substack see https://acalmpresence.substack.com.Your feedback is always welcome at claude@conscient.ca and/or on social media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, Threads, BlueSky, Mastodon, Tik Tok, YouTube and Substack.I am grateful and accountable to the earth and the human labour that provided me with the privilege of producing this podcast, including the toxic materials and extractive processes behind the computers, recorders, transportation systems and infrastructure that made this production possible. Claude SchryerLatest update on July 8, 2025
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  • e230 sarah peebles – how can we reciprocate?

    e230 sarah peebles – how can we reciprocate?
    2025/07/07
    How can we reciprocate since the world keeps us alive on the one hand, and on the other hand, all these things, birds and you name it, right? Fish and moose and beaver, these are things we love. So, if this is the world we love, we're going to have feelings about how we might want to do positive things to keep this world we love as nurtured as possible. And we also hopefully want to ask, how do we keep our own ability to be alive and thrive here as humans?Sarah Peebles is a Toronto-based installation artist, composer and music improvisor. Much of her work explores digitally manipulated found sound and unconventional methods of amplification. She has also collaborated with artists, technicians and bee biologists on a series of projects addressing pollination ecology and biodiversity, entitled ‘Resonating Bodies’ since 2008. I loved her ideas on reciprocity, which, indirectly, is what this podcast tries to do by sharing the work of ecological artists like Sarah and their vision of a world where we can peacefully cohabitate with the more-than-human world. Show notes generated by Whisper Transcribe AIAction pointsObserve the natural world closely to understand its intricate feedback loops.Support native bee populations by considering land management practices and avoiding harmful pesticides.Explore art as a medium for understanding and engaging with ecological issues.Question conventional agricultural practices and advocate for sustainable alternatives.Recognize the impact of individual choices on the broader ecosystem and strive for reciprocity.Story PreviewImagine stepping into a world where the secret lives of native, wild bees are amplified, revealing a symphony of tiny movements and vital connections. Sarah Peebles’ art invites us to observe and listen closely to nature’s diverse, essential players and reconsider our role in its delicate dance. Chapter Summary00:00 The Concept of Reciprocity01:00 Meet Sarah Peebles02:24 Engaging with Biodiversity05:24 Art as a Medium for Science10:14 The Role of Art in HealingFeatured QuotesHow can we reciprocate since the world keeps us alive?They (bees) don’t care about me at all. They’re doing what they do. I’m helping to provide places in which they can forage and nest which we can visually and sonically access.It’s a little bit easier to just allow people to have a sense of wonder and go from there.Behind the StorySarah Peebles’ journey exploring art and biodiversity began with a concern: despite years of recording natural sounds, she saw no real change in environmental awareness. This led her to collaborate with wild bee biologist Professor Lawrence Packer, sparking a passion for native bees and a desire to make biodiversity tangible through art. Her ‘Deluxe Log’ and other "Resonating Bodies" installations are a testament to this dedication, offering a unique window into the hidden world of these essential pollinators and the habitat that supports them. *END NOTES FOR ALL EPISODESHey conscient listeners, I’ve been producing the conscient podcast as a learning and unlearning journey since May 2020 on un-ceded Anishinaabe Algonquin territory (Ottawa). It’s my way to give back.In parallel with the production of the conscient podcast and its francophone counterpart, balado conscient, I I publish fee ‘a calm presence' Substack see https://acalmpresence.substack.com.Your feedback is always welcome at claude@conscient.ca and/or on social media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, Threads, BlueSky, Mastodon, Tik Tok, YouTube and Substack.I am grateful and accountable to the earth and the human labour that provided me with the privilege of producing this podcast, including the toxic materials and extractive processes behind the computers, recorders, transportation systems and infrastructure that made this production possible. Claude SchryerLatest update on July 8, 2025
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  • e229 don hill – amplifying voices

    e229 don hill – amplifying voices
    2025/07/06
    There are a lot of people that don't have the kind of talent that you do, Claude, or for that matter, I do and they have voices, but you can't hear them. So our job in the art world, I would say, is to amplify those voices in a way that's comprehensive and understandable by the folks who should be paying attention to what's going on around them and not talking at people. So my complaint these days at the art world is we're just talking at people, we're not listening to them. And if we did listen to them, you'll find that the world is actually quite a hopeful place. And then, in many respects, what Trump 2.0 is doing – is what Hazel Henderson was suggesting - is the soft path to change is collapse. He's exacerbating a situation that we've been hanging onto for perhaps far too long in even in the art world.Don Hill is a sound designer, immersive & multimedia artist, science journalist, broadcaster & public speaker. Don and I were both raised in Northern Ontario and are both sound based artists with a keen interest in technology and spirituality. I’ve have had long series of email exchanges over the years with Don about this podcast and my a calm presence Substack about some my doomist tendencies where Don often helped me considered more balanced points of view. We don’t always agree on all the issues but that’s part of the fun of art and listening. Show notes generated by Whisper Transcribe AIAction pointsAmplify marginalized voices within the art world and beyond to foster inclusivity and understanding.Challenge the commodification of fear and cortisol in media by promoting empathy and collective experiences.Embrace a slower, more contemplative approach to art and technology to counteract the accelerating nature of modern life.Recognize the limitations of hyper-individualized art and strive for collective, grounded emotional connections.Consider the future of humanity in the context of space exploration, incorporating elements of spirituality and acknowledging physiological limitations.Story PreviewCan art save us from our hyper-accelerated, fear-driven world? Journey with Don Hill as he explores how slowing down, listening deeply, and amplifying unheard voices can create collective empathy and a hopeful vision for the future.Chapter Summary00:00 Amplifying Voices in the Art World01:06 The Shift in Artistic Values03:06 Navigating Personal and Collective Grief05:01 Commodifying Fear in Art and Media07:19 The Evolution of Story Trees09:30 Slowing Down in a Fast-Paced World12:47 Future Visions and the Role of ArtFeatured QuotesWe’re just talking at people, we’re not listening to them.The art world as I understand it, is more about real estate, you know, perceived value and hoarding.We’ve commodified fear, we’ve commodified cortisol, and that seems to be the ingredient that makes social media so attractive.Behind the StoryThe episode delves into the state of the modern art world, critiquing its focus on real estate, perceived value, and the commodification of fear. It contrasts this with a call for art that fosters collective empathy and addresses societal challenges. The discussion highlights the importance of slowing down in a technologically accelerated world, drawing on personal anecdotes and experiences to illustrate the transformative power of mindful engagement with art. *END NOTES FOR ALL EPISODESHey conscient listeners, I’ve been producing the conscient podcast as a learning and unlearning journey since May 2020 on un-ceded Anishinaabe Algonquin territory (Ottawa). It’s my way to give back.In parallel with the production of the conscient podcast and its francophone counterpart, balado conscient, I I publish fee ‘a calm presence' Substack see https://acalmpresence.substack.com.Your feedback is always welcome at claude@conscient.ca and/or on social media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, Threads, BlueSky, Mastodon, Tik Tok, YouTube and Substack.I am grateful and accountable to the earth and the human labour that provided me with the privilege of producing this podcast, including the toxic materials and extractive processes behind the computers, recorders, transportation systems and infrastructure that made this production possible. Claude SchryerLatest update on July 8, 2025
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  • e228 rafael zen – artists as dreamers

    e228 rafael zen – artists as dreamers
    2025/07/05
    The role of artists is the role of dreaming. I've worked as a poet, as a multimedia artist, sound artist, storyteller. I think we hold the capacity to shape the narratives that build our present, our future, reshape the narratives that inform our past. I still believe in that role. I do believe that we have a call to work on the episteme, this epistemological call, this call to investigate the ideas, the words and the shapes that build our relationships. I think if we can do that alone, dreaming of a new reality, dreaming of futurities, dreaming of dialogue… I think that's a good path for us artists.Rafael Zen is a queer Latinx video and sound artist and performer, currently living in the land of the Coast Salish peoples, otherwise known as Vancouver. We were both part of an event at Emily Carr University of Art and Design called Listening in Relationthat expanded upon listening practices and ecological art by exploring decolonization through thought and practices of IBPoC artists. I asked Rafael about their work in new media, performance art, and in particular their understanding of decolonization and decolonial resistance. Show notes generated by Whisper Transcribe AIAction pointsEmbrace the role of an artist as a dreamer, shaping and reshaping narratives of the past, present, and future.Investigate the impact of colonial capitalism and its effect on our ability to envision solutions and equitable futures.Utilize sound and immersive installations to raise awareness of presence and challenge dominant structures.Trust your artistic vision and use storytelling to foster dialogue and connection within local communities.Identify your non-negotiables to guide your art and activism toward decolonization and meaningful change.Story PreviewWhat if art could awaken us from our colonial capitalist slumber? Rafael Zen, a visionary artist, invites us to dream of radical futures through sound, performance, and unwavering conviction. This episode explores how art can provoke dialogue, challenge ideologies, and pave the way for meaningful change, one non-negotiable at a time.Chapter Summary00:00 The Dreaming Role of Artists01:10 Exploring Decolonization in Art03:01 Hauntology and Futurity05:06 The Malfunctioning Cyborg06:44 Listening as a Tool for Awareness08:52 Art as a Catalyst for ChangeFeatured QuotesThe role of artists is the role of dreaming.How can we, as a community, dream of…queer futurities, but it can be radical equality, radical futures, equitable futures.Don’t negotiate the non-negotiable. (quoting Lélia Gonzalez)Behind the StoryRafael Zen’s work is deeply rooted in cyborg theory, speculative environmental utopias, and Brazilian indigenous theory. Zen draws inspiration from thinkers like Ailton Krenak and Mark Fisher, crafting art that challenges audiences to confront the devastation caused by colonial capitalism. By creating immersive installations and using sound as a democratic medium, Zen aims to provoke dialogue and foster a sense of presence, ultimately inviting listeners to reimagine a world free from oppression and violence. *END NOTES FOR ALL EPISODESHey conscient listeners, I’ve been producing the conscient podcast as a learning and unlearning journey since May 2020 on un-ceded Anishinaabe Algonquin territory (Ottawa). It’s my way to give back.In parallel with the production of the conscient podcast and its francophone counterpart, balado conscient, I I publish fee ‘a calm presence' Substack see https://acalmpresence.substack.com.Your feedback is always welcome at claude@conscient.ca and/or on social media: Facebook, Instagram, Linkedin, Threads, BlueSky, Mastodon, Tik Tok, YouTube and Substack.I am grateful and accountable to the earth and the human labour that provided me with the privilege of producing this podcast, including the toxic materials and extractive processes behind the computers, recorders, transportation systems and infrastructure that made this production possible. Claude SchryerLatest update on July 8, 2025
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