Worried about occupational burnout or bore-out? Press play on this conversation with Emma Lloyd and start listening to your body, too.

“No matter how or why we get there,” writes Hilary McBride in the The Wisdom of the Body, “no matter how well it may have served us, forgetting the body also costs us something—individually and collectively.”

And there’s no place we feel those collective costs more fully than in the workplace.

This week on the Mode/Switch Pod, Emily, David, LaShone, and Ken talk with Emma Lloyd about the possibilities that open up as we remember the body and its savvy. Emma is the founder of Conscious Success, a coaching company that equips working professionals—especially women—to wake up to what their bodies are telling them about their careers.

Emma’s got a great story to share about achieving conventional success and realizing gradually she needed to redefine success creatively and wisely.

Press play on this pod and learn again that, as McBride notes, “We heal when we can be with what we feel.”

Reach out to Emma Lloyd on Instagram and DM her the word “regulate.” She’ll send you an assessment to gauge how well your body says you’re actually doing at work and in life. She also has 25 practices you can do in a minute or less that will help you regulate more wisely.

You can also reach out to her on her website.