In a mildly confusing bit of podcast naming, Jared Turner sits down with comedian Turner Sparks.

Turner moved to China in 2004 to teach English, planning to stay for just one year. He ended up staying for twelve.

In this episode of You Can Learn Chinese, Turner talks about learning Chinese out of necessity, from struggling through everyday conversations with almost no shared language to using Chinese while building and running a business across China.

Turner shares stories from his years in Suzhou and Shanghai, including launching Mr. Softee ice cream trucks in China, navigating local government and business culture, whitewater rafting with Chinese officials, and stumbling into stand-up comedy when a local bar owner built him a stage and told him he had a month to prepare.

That hobby eventually became a career. After performing around Asia, Turner moved to New York City to pursue comedy full time, where his years in China, his Chinese-speaking wife and family, and the Chinese language itself continue to shape his comedy.

Turner’s path from English teacher to ice cream entrepreneur to full-time comedian is not exactly the standard Chinese-learning story. Join us for a funny and unpredictable conversation about China, Chinese, business, comedy, and the strange places learning a language can take you.

Links from the episode:

• Turner Sparks | Website & Tour Dates

• Follow Turner | Instagram, YouTube, Facebook, TikTok

• Mandarin Companion Graded Readers

Jared and John discuss the frustrations faced by a learner who came to John for help—particularly with pinyin and distinguishing similar sounds in Chinese. They explore why learners often misapply English pronunciation rules to pinyin and how comprehensible input can help ease the learning curve.

This episode serves as both a deep dive into the phonetic and perceptual challenges of learning Chinese and a reassuring reminder that, while the path to fluency can be frustrating, personalized strategies and persistent effort can lead to real progress.

Links from the episode:

• Mandarin Companion graded readers

What does it mean to walk in the footsteps of an ancestor whose life connected China and America more than a century ago?

In this episode, Ben Lee shares how moving to Wuhan in 1992 pushed him to learn Chinese for survival—and eventually led him back to a remarkable family legacy. His great-grandfather was part of the Qing Dynasty’s Chinese Educational Mission, became an early voice in Chinese American literature, and even crossed paths with Mark Twain.

Ben and Jared explore heritage, identity, education, and the lifelong rewards of learning Chinese. Ben also shares practical advice for learners, including why the best approach is simple: start, keep going, and accept that there will always be more to learn.

Links from the episode:

• “When I was a boy in China” by Yan Phou Lee | Project Gutenbert and Amazon

• Mandarin Companion Graded Readers
  

Whether you're planning your first trip to China or reminiscing about past adventures, Jared and John share why even a little Chinese can transform your experience, from connecting with locals through place names and ordering regional specialties to navigating trains, buses, and the occasional unexpected adventure.

Along the way, they swap memorable stories of language mishaps, overnight train rides, questionable transportation choices, and the kinds of travel misadventures that become some of the most memorable stories. They also discuss the balance between relying on translation apps and building the confidence to communicate on your own, and how some of the best language learning happens when you step outside your comfort zone.

If you're thinking about visiting China, or just looking for motivation to keep studying, this episode will remind you that travel isn't just a reward for learning Chinese; it's one of the best ways to accelerate your progress.

Links from the episode:

• Mandarin Companion Graded Readers
  

What happens when a childhood choice turns into a life-changing career change?

In this episode, Jared talks with Jake Hines, an Australian content creator based in Xiamen, China, whose Chinese learning journey began in high school thanks to a nudge from his mom. After years working as an engineering project manager, Jake left his stable career during COVID to pursue a very different path: traveling through China, creating videos, and rebuilding his life around the language he had once studied as a teenager.

Jake shares how early trips to Nanjing sparked his fascination with Chinese, why he sees language learning as a form of “Type II Fun,” and how the challenge of Mandarin became part of its appeal. He also explains how creating Chinese-language content has become one of his most powerful learning tools. From filming conversations with locals to translating, subtitling, and editing the same footage over and over, Jake discovered that video creation can turn real-world Chinese into deeply memorable comprehensible input.

The conversation also explores Jake’s experiences studying at Xiamen University, making friends through Chinese, learning through graded readers and podcasts, and building a media career in China. He shares the story of winning an award for a video about Dehua porcelain and being flown to Beijing to speak on a live panel in Chinese.

Jake’s practical advice: find a personal project that makes Chinese useful, consume content you genuinely enjoy, talk to yourself in Chinese, and embrace mistakes as part of the process. As Jake’s shirt says: 问题不大, no big problem.

Links from the episode:

• The Journey of Jake | YouTube, Instagram, 小红书

• Mandarin Companion Graded Readers
  

Are you getting everything you can out of your Chinese lessons?

Jared and John share practical strategies for multiplying the value of every class or tutoring session. You'll learn how to review lesson notes more effectively, identify the corrections that matter most, create better flashcards, and use recordings to improve your pronunciation and speaking ability.

They also show how modern AI tools can analyze lesson transcripts, uncover recurring mistakes, highlight useful vocabulary, and generate personalized review materials based on your actual conversations.

Whether you study with a tutor online or in person, these techniques can help you remember more, notice patterns faster, and make measurable progress between lessons.

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• italki | online language tutors

• Mandarin Companion Graded Readers
  

When Emma first came to China for a two-month internship, she had no intention of learning Chinese. In fact, she had spent years telling herself she simply wasn't a "language person." But after returning to China a second time, a desire to communicate her strict vegan diet led her to begin studying Mandarin. What started as a practical goal soon became a transformative personal journey.

In this episode, Emma shares how she went from intense textbook study and relentless productivity to discovering that real language growth happens through connection, conversation, and embracing mistakes. She reflects on joining an HSK 2 class with zero Chinese background, burning herself out through perfectionism, and eventually finding a healthier approach by building friendships with Chinese speakers and immersing herself in everyday life.

More than a language-learning story, this is a conversation about transformation. Emma and Jared explore cultural adaptation, reverse culture shock, and how learning Chinese can change not just how you communicate, but how you think, who you become, and where you belong.

Why do tones sometimes seem “good enough”… until they suddenly create complete chaos?

In this episode, Jared and John dive into one of the trickiest realities of learning Chinese: when small tone mistakes collide with low-context situations and produce surprisingly big misunderstandings.

Inspired by a real-life exchange student story in Shanghai, they share some hilarious examples of Chinese mix-ups involving pandas vs. chest hair, thesis defenses vs. poop, and one especially memorable mistake involving “receiving payment.”

Beyond the laughs, this episode explores why context matters so much in Chinese, especially with names, place names, numbers, and situations where listeners don’t have enough clues to infer what you mean.

Jared and John also share practical strategies to reduce communication breakdowns: using written backup, giving extra context, confirming understanding, paying closer attention to “recasts,” and learning how to spot your own pronunciation errors.

If you’ve ever been convinced you said something correctly only to get blank stares in return, this episode is for you. Mistakes are part of the process, but with a little awareness and a few smart habits, you can avoid some of the most spectacular ones.

Links from the episode:

• Chinese Pronunciation Wiki

• Mandarin Companion Graded Readers