The Truth in Love Ministry interns—Ethan, Noah, Caleb, and Aaron—continue the Christ in the Old Testament series on the Witnessing Christ Podcast, walking through selected chapters in the book of Numbers. As Latter-day Saints follow these readings in their Come, Follow Me study, this episode equips Christians to engage those same passages while clearly pointing to the biblical gospel.

In these chapters, the Israelites continue their journey through the wilderness, marked by a repeated cycle of complaint, rebellion, and doubt. Again and again, God’s people question His promises—even after witnessing His provision—while God responds with both justice and mercy, disciplining their sin yet continuing to provide for their needs.

The interns explore how LDS teachings often emphasize faith as action, personal agency, and conditional blessings, while Scripture reveals something deeper: a faithful God who keeps His promises despite human failure. From the spies’ report at the Promised Land to the bronze serpent lifted in the wilderness, these accounts ultimately point beyond human effort to God’s saving work.

In this episode, you’ll hear:

• How the Israelites’ repeated rebellion highlights humanity’s sinful nature.
• The difference between biblical faith and LDS views of faith as obedience and effort.
• Why God’s promises are not grounded in human performance, but in His faithfulness.
• How the concept of ongoing revelation and authority shapes LDS interpretation.
• Why words like faith, works, and law can carry very different meanings.
• How the bronze serpent in Numbers points directly to Jesus in John 3.
• The difference between salvation by looking to Christ and salvation by human action.
• Practical questions to help guide gospel conversations with LDS friends and family.

The episode also highlights one of the clearest gospel pictures in the Old Testament: the bronze serpent. While some may see the act of “looking” as something people must do, Scripture points to something greater—the object of faith. Just as the serpent was lifted up for the people’s healing, so Jesus was lifted up on the cross, accomplishing salvation for all who believe.

This episode reminds listeners that the story of Numbers is not about people gradually becoming faithful enough for God. Instead, it reveals a God who remains faithful to His promises, even when His people fail—ultimately pointing to Jesus Christ, who was lifted up so that sinners might be declared not guilty and receive eternal life through faith alone.

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In this special episode of the Witnessing Christ Podcast, the Truth in Love Ministry team—including Mark and Molly Parsons, Pastor Wayne Uhlhorn, and interns Lilly, Aaron, Ethan, and Noah—come together to reflect on the April 2026 General Conference of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. After listening to multiple conference talks, the group shares key takeaways and equips Christians to engage these teachings with clarity and compassion.

From messages on peace, service, eternal marriage, and becoming more like Christ, the team highlights how LDS leaders use familiar Christian language while often communicating very different meanings. Throughout the episode, the conversation focuses on how to recognize these differences and respond in a way that points back to the finished work of Jesus.

Each speaker brings a unique perspective, walking through specific talks and offering practical insights for witnessing. Whether discussing Peter’s failures, the burden of obedience, or the motivation behind loving others, the team consistently brings the conversation back to the central question: Is the focus on what Christ has done—or on what we must do?

In this episode, you’ll hear:

• Key themes from the April 2026 General Conference and why they matter for witnessing.
• How LDS teachings often emphasize progression, obedience, and personal effort.
• The difference between biblical law and gospel and LDS approaches to Scripture.
• Why familiar words like grace, forgiveness, and salvation can carry different meanings.
• How to respond to messages about peace, service, and eternal marriage with biblical clarity.
• Practical ways to start conversations using General Conference as a bridge.
• Real-life witnessing insights from conversations with LDS friends, neighbors, and missionaries.

If you’d like to explore the talks discussed in this episode, you can find the full General Conference sessions here:
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference


The episode also emphasizes the importance of listening carefully and asking thoughtful questions. Rather than approaching conversations with debate in mind, the team models how to engage respectfully while still addressing the deeper theological differences that ultimately point to Christ alone.

This episode reminds listeners that opportunities for witnessing are often right in front of us. Events like General Conference give Christians a clear window into what their LDS friends are hearing and thinking—creating natural starting points for gospel conversations centered on Jesus’ finished work.

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The Truth in Love Ministry interns—Caleb, Ethan, and Aaron—continue the Christ in the Old Testament series on the Witnessing Christ Podcast, covering key sections of Exodus 19–24 and 31–34. As Latter-day Saints follow these chapters in their Come, Follow Me readings, this episode equips Christians to engage those same passages while clearly pointing to the biblical gospel.

In these chapters, God gives the Ten Commandments, establishes his covenant with Israel, and reveals his holiness on Mount Sinai. Yet almost immediately, the people turn to idolatry in the golden calf incident, exposing the depth of human sin and the impossibility of achieving righteousness through obedience.

The interns explore how LDS teachings often emphasize commandment-keeping, covenant faithfulness, and progression toward godhood. In contrast, they highlight what Scripture reveals about the true purpose of the law—not as a ladder to climb toward God, but as a mirror that exposes sin and drives us to a Savior.

In this episode, you’ll hear:

• Why the Ten Commandments reveal God’s perfect standard—not a path to earning salvation.
• How the golden calf incident exposes humanity’s constant failure and need for grace.
• The difference between biblical forgiveness and LDS ideas of forgiveness through effort and consequences.
• What Exodus 34:6–7 teaches about God’s justice, mercy, and steadfast love.
• How God’s justice and mercy meet perfectly at the cross of Christ.
• Why Jesus intensifies the law in Matthew 5 and what that reveals about our need for a Savior.
• How Christ fulfills the law perfectly and gives his righteousness to believers.
• Practical questions to help guide gospel conversations with LDS friends and family.

The episode also emphasizes that while God does not leave sin unpunished, he himself provides the payment. At the cross, Jesus takes the full weight of the law’s demands, so that sinners can be fully forgiven—not by their obedience, but by his finished work.

This episode reminds listeners that the law was never meant to be a ladder to heaven. Instead, it shows us our need for Jesus—the One who is perfect in our place, who pays for our sin, and who gives us his righteousness as a gift.

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The Truth in Love Ministry interns—Caleb, Aaron, and Ethan—continue the Christ in the Old Testament series on the Witnessing Christ Podcast, walking through Exodus 14–18. As Latter-day Saints study these chapters in their Come, Follow Me readings, this episode equips Christians to engage those same sections while clearly pointing to the biblical gospel.

In these chapters, God delivers His people through the Red Sea, defeats Pharaoh and his army, and provides for Israel in the wilderness with water from a rock and bread from heaven. From miraculous rescue to daily provision, these events reveal a God who saves and sustains His people entirely by His grace.

The interns examine how LDS teachings often emphasize personal growth, obedience, and “learning heaven,” while Scripture highlights something different: dependence on God’s provision. Through the stories of manna and water in the wilderness, they show how God provides for His people not because of their faithfulness, but in spite of their complaints and failures.

In this episode, you’ll hear:

• How the Red Sea crossing displays God’s complete and gracious deliverance.
• Why the Israelites’ complaints highlight God’s mercy—not their worthiness.
• The difference between biblical dependence on God and LDS ideas of progression and obedience.
• How the manna and water from the rock point forward to Jesus as the true source of life.
• Why Jesus calls Himself the Bread of Life and Living Water in John 4 and John 6.
• How eternal life is received through faith—not earned through effort or growth.
• Practical questions to help guide gospel conversations with LDS friends and family.

The episode also emphasizes that the focus of these accounts is not on what God’s people must do, but on what God has already done and continues to provide. Just as God fed Israel in the wilderness, Jesus offers Himself as the true and lasting nourishment—the One who satisfies completely and gives eternal life to all who believe.

This episode reminds listeners that the Christian life is not about progressing toward God through obedience, but about trusting in what God has already provided in Christ. In Him, we are fully nourished, fully satisfied, and fully secure.

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The Truth in Love Ministry interns—Caleb, Aaron, Ethan, and Noah—pause their Christ in the Old Testament series for a special Easter episode of the Witnessing Christ Podcast, focusing on the resurrection of Jesus Christ and what it truly accomplished.

In this episode, the interns begin with a shared foundation: both biblical Christians and Latter-day Saints agree that Jesus physically rose from the dead. The tomb was empty, Christ appeared to His disciples, and He lives today. But while there is agreement on the event itself, the conversation quickly turns to a deeper question—what did the resurrection actually accomplish?

The team contrasts the LDS understanding of the resurrection as a universal gift of immortality with the biblical teaching that Christ’s death and resurrection fully accomplish salvation. They emphasize that the resurrection cannot be separated from the cross, where Jesus paid for sin in full, and show how the empty tomb is God’s declaration that the work is finished.

In this episode, you’ll hear:

• What biblical Christians and Latter-day Saints agree on about the resurrection.
• Why the real question is not if Jesus rose, but what His resurrection accomplished.
• The difference between resurrection as universal immortality and resurrection as completed salvation.
• How the cross and resurrection work together to secure forgiveness and righteousness.
• Why “It is finished” means there is nothing left for us to earn before God.
• What it means to be justified—declared not guilty—through Christ’s resurrection.
• Practical questions to help guide gospel conversations with LDS friends and family.

The interns also explore how the resurrection gives Christians complete confidence before God. Because Jesus lived, died, and rose again, believers are not left wondering if they have done enough. Instead, they stand forgiven, justified, and secure—knowing that Christ has already accomplished everything necessary for their salvation.

This episode reminds listeners that Easter is not just about new life in a general sense, but about a finished victory. Jesus’ resurrection is the guarantee that sin is paid for, death is defeated, and eternal life is secured for all who trust in Him.

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The Truth in Love Ministry interns—Caleb, Ethan, and Noah—continue the Christ in the Old Testament series on the Witnessing Christ Podcast, walking through Exodus 7–18. As Latter-day Saints follow these chapters in their Come, Follow Me readings, this episode helps Christians engage those same sections while clearly pointing to the biblical gospel.

In these chapters, Moses and Aaron stand before Pharaoh as God unleashes the ten plagues on Egypt, culminating in the dramatic events of the Passover. As Pharaoh repeatedly hardens his heart, God displays His power, justice, and faithfulness—ultimately delivering His people from slavery. But beneath these familiar stories lies a deeper message about the condition of the human heart and the need for divine rescue.

The interns explore the tension between Pharaoh’s hardened heart and God’s sovereign action, emphasizing what Scripture teaches about sin, judgment, and God’s control over salvation. At the same time, they highlight one of the clearest pictures of Christ in the Old Testament: the Passover lamb.

In this episode, you’ll hear:

• What Scripture teaches about Pharaoh hardening his heart—and God hardening it.
• The difference between biblical teaching and LDS views of agency and free will.
• Why all people begin with hearts hardened against God.
• How God’s judgment and mercy are both on display in the Exodus account.
• Why the Passover lamb is one of the clearest pictures of Jesus in the Old Testament.
• How the blood of the lamb points directly to Christ’s sacrifice on the cross.
• Practical questions to help guide gospel conversations with LDS friends and family.

The episode also highlights how the Israelites were not saved by their obedience, but by the blood of the lamb—a powerful picture of how sinners are saved through Christ alone. Just as the destroyer passed over the homes marked by blood, so God’s judgment passes over all who are covered by the blood of Jesus, the true Passover Lamb.

This episode reminds listeners that salvation does not come from human effort or choice, but from God’s gracious action. The same God who delivered Israel from Egypt has delivered us from sin, death, and judgment through Jesus Christ—the Lamb who was slain so that we might live.

The Truth in Love Ministry interns—Caleb, Aaron, Ethan, and Noah—continue the Christ in the Old Testament series on the Witnessing Christ Podcast, turning to the opening chapters of Exodus (1–6). As Latter-day Saints work through these chapters in their Come, Follow Me readings, this episode helps Christians walk alongside those discussions while pointing clearly to the biblical gospel.

In these chapters, Israel’s situation becomes desperate. A new Pharaoh enslaves the Israelites, orders the death of Hebrew baby boys, and tightens his grip as their numbers grow. Yet even in the midst of oppression, God is quietly preserving His promise. Moses’ life is spared, he is raised in Pharaoh’s household, and decades later God calls him from the burning bush to deliver His people from slavery.

The interns examine how this section highlights God’s holiness, human sinfulness, and the need for a true deliverer. While Moses is chosen to lead Israel out of Egypt, his hesitation, doubt, and imperfection remind listeners that he is not the ultimate hero of the story. Instead, Moses points forward to a greater deliverer—Jesus Christ—who accomplishes the perfect salvation Moses could only foreshadow.

In this episode, you’ll hear:

• Why the Exodus story is ultimately about God’s faithfulness to His promises.
• The difference between biblical deliverance and LDS ideas of salvation.
• How Moses’ weakness and reluctance highlight God’s power and grace.
• What the burning bush teaches about God’s holiness and human sinfulness.
• Why true reverence comes from encountering the holy God, not from human effort.
• How Moses’ role as deliverer points forward to the greater deliverer, Jesus Christ.
• Practical questions to help guide gospel conversations with LDS friends and family.

This episode reminds listeners that humanity cannot climb its way up to God. Standing before a holy God exposes our sin and our need for rescue. But the same God who called Moses to deliver Israel ultimately sent Jesus Christ—the perfect deliverer who lived for us, died for us, and rose again so that sinners could stand confidently in God’s presence.

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10 Words to Know Before Sharing the Gospel with Mormons:
https://tilm.org/10-words-to-know-before-sharing-the-gospel-with-mormons/

The Truth in Love Ministry interns—Aaron, Ethan, Noah, and Caleb—continue the Christ in the Old Testament series on the Witnessing Christ Podcast, exploring the second half of the Joseph narrative in Genesis 42–50. As Latter-day Saints study these chapters in their Come, Follow Me readings, this episode helps Christians walk alongside those discussions while pointing clearly to the biblical gospel.

In this section of Genesis, Joseph’s brothers travel to Egypt during a devastating famine, unaware that the powerful ruler they stand before is the brother they once sold into slavery. Through a series of tests, Joseph reveals his identity and ultimately offers forgiveness rather than revenge. The story builds toward a powerful reminder that God was working through every hardship—not only to preserve lives during the famine, but to preserve the promise of the Savior.

The interns examine how Joseph’s forgiveness flows from faith in God’s promise rather than from a desire for personal healing or progress. They also explore how the story ultimately centers not on Joseph as a moral example, but on God’s grace in preserving the line through which Jesus would come.

In this episode, you’ll hear:

• Why Joseph chose forgiveness instead of revenge, even when he had the power to punish his brothers.
• The difference between biblical forgiveness and LDS ideas of forgiveness as personal progress.
• Why Joseph’s story is not primarily about moral example but about God’s promise.
• How God preserved the line of the Savior through Jacob’s family despite their sin.
• Why Judah—an unlikely and undeserving choice—receives the promise of the coming Messiah.
• How Old Testament believers lived by faith in the same promise fulfilled in Christ.
• Practical questions to help guide conversations with LDS friends and family about forgiveness and grace.

This episode reminds listeners that the story of Joseph is ultimately about God’s faithfulness to His promise. Even through betrayal, suffering, and broken families, God was preserving the line through which Jesus would come—the Savior who pays our debt, forgives our sins, and secures the eternal inheritance promised to all who trust in Him.

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