The Truth in Love Ministry interns—Ethan, Noah, Caleb, and Aaron—continue the Christ in the Old Testament series on the Witnessing Christ Podcast, walking through selected chapters in the book of Numbers. As Latter-day Saints follow these readings in their Come, Follow Me study, this episode equips Christians to engage those same passages while clearly pointing to the biblical gospel.

In these chapters, the Israelites continue their journey through the wilderness, marked by a repeated cycle of complaint, rebellion, and doubt. Again and again, God’s people question His promises—even after witnessing His provision—while God responds with both justice and mercy, disciplining their sin yet continuing to provide for their needs.

The interns explore how LDS teachings often emphasize faith as action, personal agency, and conditional blessings, while Scripture reveals something deeper: a faithful God who keeps His promises despite human failure. From the spies’ report at the Promised Land to the bronze serpent lifted in the wilderness, these accounts ultimately point beyond human effort to God’s saving work.

In this episode, you’ll hear:

• How the Israelites’ repeated rebellion highlights humanity’s sinful nature.
• The difference between biblical faith and LDS views of faith as obedience and effort.
• Why God’s promises are not grounded in human performance, but in His faithfulness.
• How the concept of ongoing revelation and authority shapes LDS interpretation.
• Why words like faith, works, and law can carry very different meanings.
• How the bronze serpent in Numbers points directly to Jesus in John 3.
• The difference between salvation by looking to Christ and salvation by human action.
• Practical questions to help guide gospel conversations with LDS friends and family.

The episode also highlights one of the clearest gospel pictures in the Old Testament: the bronze serpent. While some may see the act of “looking” as something people must do, Scripture points to something greater—the object of faith. Just as the serpent was lifted up for the people’s healing, so Jesus was lifted up on the cross, accomplishing salvation for all who believe.

This episode reminds listeners that the story of Numbers is not about people gradually becoming faithful enough for God. Instead, it reveals a God who remains faithful to His promises, even when His people fail—ultimately pointing to Jesus Christ, who was lifted up so that sinners might be declared not guilty and receive eternal life through faith alone.

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In this special episode of the Witnessing Christ Podcast, the Truth in Love Ministry team—including Mark and Molly Parsons, Pastor Wayne Uhlhorn, and interns Lilly, Aaron, Ethan, and Noah—come together to reflect on the April 2026 General Conference of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. After listening to multiple conference talks, the group shares key takeaways and equips Christians to engage these teachings with clarity and compassion.

From messages on peace, service, eternal marriage, and becoming more like Christ, the team highlights how LDS leaders use familiar Christian language while often communicating very different meanings. Throughout the episode, the conversation focuses on how to recognize these differences and respond in a way that points back to the finished work of Jesus.

Each speaker brings a unique perspective, walking through specific talks and offering practical insights for witnessing. Whether discussing Peter’s failures, the burden of obedience, or the motivation behind loving others, the team consistently brings the conversation back to the central question: Is the focus on what Christ has done—or on what we must do?

In this episode, you’ll hear:

• Key themes from the April 2026 General Conference and why they matter for witnessing.
• How LDS teachings often emphasize progression, obedience, and personal effort.
• The difference between biblical law and gospel and LDS approaches to Scripture.
• Why familiar words like grace, forgiveness, and salvation can carry different meanings.
• How to respond to messages about peace, service, and eternal marriage with biblical clarity.
• Practical ways to start conversations using General Conference as a bridge.
• Real-life witnessing insights from conversations with LDS friends, neighbors, and missionaries.

If you’d like to explore the talks discussed in this episode, you can find the full General Conference sessions here:
https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference


The episode also emphasizes the importance of listening carefully and asking thoughtful questions. Rather than approaching conversations with debate in mind, the team models how to engage respectfully while still addressing the deeper theological differences that ultimately point to Christ alone.

This episode reminds listeners that opportunities for witnessing are often right in front of us. Events like General Conference give Christians a clear window into what their LDS friends are hearing and thinking—creating natural starting points for gospel conversations centered on Jesus’ finished work.

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The Truth in Love Ministry interns—Caleb, Ethan, and Aaron—continue the Christ in the Old Testament series on the Witnessing Christ Podcast, covering key sections of Exodus 19–24 and 31–34. As Latter-day Saints follow these chapters in their Come, Follow Me readings, this episode equips Christians to engage those same passages while clearly pointing to the biblical gospel.

In these chapters, God gives the Ten Commandments, establishes his covenant with Israel, and reveals his holiness on Mount Sinai. Yet almost immediately, the people turn to idolatry in the golden calf incident, exposing the depth of human sin and the impossibility of achieving righteousness through obedience.

The interns explore how LDS teachings often emphasize commandment-keeping, covenant faithfulness, and progression toward godhood. In contrast, they highlight what Scripture reveals about the true purpose of the law—not as a ladder to climb toward God, but as a mirror that exposes sin and drives us to a Savior.

In this episode, you’ll hear:

• Why the Ten Commandments reveal God’s perfect standard—not a path to earning salvation.
• How the golden calf incident exposes humanity’s constant failure and need for grace.
• The difference between biblical forgiveness and LDS ideas of forgiveness through effort and consequences.
• What Exodus 34:6–7 teaches about God’s justice, mercy, and steadfast love.
• How God’s justice and mercy meet perfectly at the cross of Christ.
• Why Jesus intensifies the law in Matthew 5 and what that reveals about our need for a Savior.
• How Christ fulfills the law perfectly and gives his righteousness to believers.
• Practical questions to help guide gospel conversations with LDS friends and family.

The episode also emphasizes that while God does not leave sin unpunished, he himself provides the payment. At the cross, Jesus takes the full weight of the law’s demands, so that sinners can be fully forgiven—not by their obedience, but by his finished work.

This episode reminds listeners that the law was never meant to be a ladder to heaven. Instead, it shows us our need for Jesus—the One who is perfect in our place, who pays for our sin, and who gives us his righteousness as a gift.

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