This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Typecraft and Robert Jackson about everything from Japanese rice whiskey to the future of software engineering. They dig into Robert’s open source journey, his insights on MCP and AI, and whether frameworks will remain relevant in an LLM-driven world. They also explore how AI changes the way new developers learn, the importance of systems thinking, and why open source sharpens both technical and soft skills.

In this episode:

• (00:00) - Intro
• (02:19) - Whiskey rating & review: Ohishi Whisky Ex Brandy Cask
• (14:09) - Hot take: GPT-5 vs Claude Sonnet 4
• (22:34) - Framework computers and modular desktops
• (29:37) - How open source shapes careers
• (36:25) - Will frameworks survive the rise of AI code?
• (46:53) - Kids and tech
• (47:51) - The great Buffalo Wild Wings detour
• (49:16) - How Robert turned fitness into a priority

• Ohishi Whisky Ex Brandy Cask: https://ohishiwhisky.com/
• Ember: https://emberjs.com/
• MCP: https://modelcontextprotocol.io/
• 30 Rock: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/30_Rock
• Alec Baldwin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alec_Baldwin
• ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/
• Claude: https://claude.ai/
• Opus: https://www.anthropic.com/claude/opus
• Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/
• GitHub: https://github.com/
• Neovim: https://neovim.io/
• Arch Linux: https://archlinux.org/
• Apple: https://apple.com
• Ollama: https://ollama.com/
• DHH: https://x.com/dhh/
• Ruby on Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/
• Minecraft: https://www.minecraft.net/
• Buffalo Wild Wings: https://www.buffalowildwings.com/
• Hot Ones: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Ones
• McDonald's: https://www.mcdonalds.com/
• MyFitnessPal: https://www.myfitnesspal.com/
• MacroFactor: https://macrofactorapp.com/

• Website: https://typecraft.dev/
• X / Twitter: https://x.com/typecraft_dev

• Website: https://www.rwjblue.com/
• Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/rwjblue.com

• Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner
• Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd

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