Dr Thomas Ind is a Consultant Gynaecological Oncologist, one of the UK's most senior gynaecological oncology surgeons, and currently President of the British Gynaecological Cancer Society. He has spent many years specialising in cervical cancer and was involved in the development and introduction of fertility-preserving surgery for women with early-stage cervical cancer. https://eveappeal.org.uk/

In this episode, Joyce and Tom discuss cervical cancer, HPV and why cervical screening remains one of the greatest success stories in cancer prevention. Tom explains what cervical cancer is, how HPV causes the vast majority of cases, why HPV vaccination has been so effective, and why attending regular smear tests is still essential, even if you have been vaccinated. They also discuss the symptoms of cervical cancer, risk factors, and how treatment has evolved to become more effective and, in some cases, fertility-preserving.

The conversation also tackles common myths surrounding HPV and vaccination, explores exciting developments in self-testing, and highlights how increasing uptake of vaccination and screening could make cervical cancer increasingly rare.

Date of episode recording: 2026-02-11
Language of episode: English
Presenter: Professor Joyce Harper
Guests: Dr Thomas Ind
Producer: Joyce Harper

Sanju is a passionate Endo Warrior whose life's work is underpinned by social justice. She is founder of the education charity RISE (Rural India School Enterprise) which she managed whilst working full time as a management consultant at Accenture for a decade. This led to her winning the UK Asian Women of Achievement Award and being profiled in ‘Inspirational Women in Business’ by the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills. Her Late Majesty the Queen recognised Sanju alongside global changemakers at the ‘Youth, Education and the Commonwealth’ reception at Buckingham Palace. Sanju has been invited to 10 Downing Street and received the Prime Minister’s Points of Light Award. Her life changed in 2018 when Accenture sacked her whilst she was recovering from surgery for endometriosis. Since then she has been fighting for justice.

On 19 January 2026, Sanju won a landmark high court case setting legal precedent for endometriosis to be considered a disability under the Equality Act 2010 in the UK but Accenture have appealed. She campaigns for the fair treatment of women with gynaecological conditions in the workplace. Sanju is a member of the global Teach for All community, the diverse voices of which she promotes on her podcast ‘Something for the Soul’ to inspire anyone, at any age, to be a social innovator. She writes poetry and plays violin in the West London Sinfonia.

https://www.rise-online.co.uk/ https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/761186
https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/accenture-disability-discrimination-endometriosis/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/sanju-pal-64b96166/
Instagram: @sanjusticeuk @sanjuthinks

This episode may be particularly valuable for anyone living with endometriosis, adenomyosis, PMOS, PMDD, fibroids, menopause-related symptoms or other gynaecological conditions, as well as employers, managers and HR professionals who want to create healthier and more inclusive workplaces. In this episode, Professor Joyce Harper speaks with Sanju Pal about the realities of living with endometriosis. They explore why so many women struggle to be heard when seeking healthcare support and the consequences of delayed diagnosis and misunderstanding.

The conversation also examines the relationship between women's health and employment, including the adjustments and support that can help people remain in work while managing chronic health conditions. Whether you are affected by endometriosis yourself, know someone who is, work in healthcare or are interested in improving workplace support for women's health, this is an important and thought-provoking discussion. And there are ways you can help – sign the petition, support the crowd funding, write to your MP and join the movement. Links above. Education of employers is also key as without understanding, how can you support women? We do not expect every line manager to understand women’s health but we do advocate for women’s health ambassadors in every company who can support women.

Dr Sarah Lensen is a Senior Research Fellow in the Department of Obstetrics, Gynaecology and Newborn Health at the University of Melbourne. She has a background and interest in women's health, particularly infertility and IVF. Dr Lensen is particularly interested in improving evidence-based healthcare of women. She has been involved in a number of large clinical trials evaluating infertility treatment options, including intrauterine insemination and endometrial scratching for IVF, and she has a keen interest in clinical trial and research methodology. She is the lead researcher behind the Evidence-based IVF website, making scientific evidence about IVF options accessible to IVF patients and is Co-lead of the Cochrane Gynaecology and Fertility Group, and has published many systematic reviews and meta-analyses. She also leads the (In)fertility Research Panel, supporting the involvement of patients and people with lived experience of infertility and IVF in research. Her current research aims to understand why unproven treatments options are used in reproductive medicine, and to develop evidence-based resources to assist decision making.

https://www.unimelb.edu.au/ivf
Instagram: @evidence_based_ivf

Sarah explains the principles of evidence-based medicine, the role of randomised controlled trials and systematic reviews, and why high-quality evidence matters when making fertility treatment decisions.

Together Joyce and Sarah explore some of the most widely used IVF add-ons, including PGT-A and embryo glue, discussing what the evidence shows, how these treatments are marketed, and the challenges patients face when navigating often complex and conflicting information. They also discuss the growing influence of social media on fertility knowledge and misinformation, and why helping patients make informed, evidence-based choices has never been more important. A fascinating conversation about science, hope, uncertainty, and the future of fertility care.

Date of episode recording: 2026-08-19
Presenter: Professor Joyce Harper
Guests: Dr Sarah Lensen
Producer: Joyce Harper
Podcast Owner: Joyce Harper