Michael and Sam chat with HOU.SEC.CON 2025 speakers Sean Jones and Kaloyan Ivanov! In this episode, they explore how pathways into the cybersecurity industry have evolved across generations, what it takes to go undercover in cybercriminal communities, and why accountability is crucial when engaging in such high-risk work.

Things Mentioned:

• DarkForums Rushes to Hide after Hacker Exposes User IPs - https://cybernews.com/cybercrime/darkforums-ssrf-exploit-leak/
• HSC User Group on August 28, 2025 – https://www.hscusergroup.com
• Get your HOU.SEC.CON. Ticket before they go up on September 1, 2025 - https://web.cvent.com/event/9ba9c5ea-9502-44a2-922e-d026c047c9f3/regProcessStep1?rp=7fc495f3-0ae2-4b86-a115-0ce784642a9f
• CYBR.SEC.Media - https://www.cybrsecmedia.com
• Register for HOU.SEC.CON. - https://web.cvent.com/event/9ba9c5ea-9502-44a2-922e-d026c047c9f3/register?rp=7fc495f3-0ae2-4b86-a115-0ce784642a9f
• Attend Sean and Kaloyan’s talk on Wednesday, October 1 at 1:00pm in room 350 DEF at HOU.SEC.CON. “How to Become One of Them: Deep Cover Operations in Cybercriminal Communities” - https://web.cvent.com/event/9ba9c5ea-9502-44a2-922e-d026c047c9f3/websitePage:dd3dff4f-9597-4a4b-960e-eb732a9a3853?rp=7fc495f3-0ae2-4b86-a115-0ce784642a9f&session=4d9d59ff-e268-4d78-98a5-fc3754a5a5be

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In this episode:

· Host: Michael Farnum

· Host: Sam Van Ryder

· Guest 1: Sean Jones

· Guest 2: Kaloyan Ivanov

· Production and editing: Lauren Andrus

· Music by: August Honey