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WTF is Business Casual

WTF is Business Casual

著者: Rise Human Resources
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Buckle up for real HR stories that'll make you laugh, cringe, and thank your lucky stars you're not that guy.

WTF is Business Casual is the HR podcast where two seasoned consultants—Sarah Bursten and Jenny Lavey, co-founders of RiseHR—dish on wild workplace fails, toxic bosses, employee drama, and leadership gone wrong. With 35+ years of combined experience in HR, leadership development, and people management, they offer surprisingly useful advice wrapped in real talk and hilarious storytelling.

If you’re an HR professional, small business owner, people manager, or just someone who’s survived office politics, this show is for you.

Subscribe to WTF is Business Casual—because work is weird, leadership is messy, and people always be peopling.

Hosted by Sarah Bursten & Jenny Lavey | RiseHR
www.risehumanresources.com

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  • Part 2: More Viral Workplace Advice, More Opinions
    2026/08/19

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    In this episode of WTF is Business Casual?!, Jenny and Sarah are back for part two of their workplace advice reaction series. They're reviewing trending career takes and giving their real perspectives as corporate insiders.

    From a woman who says everything in corporate is made up (she's not wrong) to Dan Martell's fire-or-hire takes that had them equal parts nodding and horrified, there's a lot to unpack.

    They get into why feelings are not facts and leaders already know what to do — they just want a different answer. Plus, the PTO clawback situation that has Jenny ready to fight, the great resume debate around job hoppers vs. lifers, and whether quiet people in meetings should be fired. Spoiler: Dan Martell thinks so. Jenny and Sarah do not.

    Whether you're a job seeker, a people manager, or just someone who's been denied PTO that was already approved, this one's got something to make everybody feel something.

    There's some good stuff out there on the internet. And then there's the rest of it.

    Highlights:

    [00:00] Cold open: not all workplace advice is good advice

    [05:33] Reaction #1: everything in corporate is made up

    [12:21] Reaction #2: if you don't say it, you lose the right to be frustrated

    [14:13] Reaction #3: therapy truths that belong in every workplace

    [19:21] Reaction #4: the three-year employee sweet spot — do we buy it?

    [40:14] Reaction #5: the PTO clawback situation from hell

    [45:48] Reaction #6: Dan Martell's fire or hire

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    59 分
  • We React to Viral (& worst) Workplace Videos - Part 1
    2026/08/05

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    In this episode of WTF is Business Casual?!, Jenny and Sarah are doing something a little different. Reacting in real time to the viral workplace advice flooding your social media feeds. From the Dan Martells and Gary Vs of the world to random HR "professionals" who've been fired multiple times and somehow think that's a flex, Jenny and Sarah are calling it all out.

    They get into the corporate communication channel chaos that's quietly destroying everyone's brain, the bereavement leave situation that will make your blood boil, a pay transparency moment that's equal parts inspiring and messy, and an HR person who thinks standing alone is a personality trait.

    Highlights:
    [00:00] Cold open: 20 communication channels and zero accountability
    [05:57] This week's format: reacting to viral workplace advice
    [08:22] Reaction #1: corporate communication channel chaos
    [11:32] Brain fog, burnout, and why you literally cannot keep up
    [15:06] Reaction #2: the HR pro who's been fired a lot (and thinks that's a good thing)
    [19:16] Reaction #3: should you try to fix a toxic workplace?
    [23:43] Reaction #4: the bereavement leave text thread from hell
    [26:42] Reaction #5: the pay gap text exchange and what the manager got legally wrong
    [32:55] Reaction #6: should you ask your coworker what they make?
    [40:25] Colorado's pay transparency law and how to use job postings to your advantage

    Hit play because not all LinkedIn advice is created equal, and somebody had to say it.

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    45 分
  • What is HR? Myths, Mayhem & the Real Cost of Being in HR
    2026/07/22

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    In this episode of WTF is Business Casual?!, Jenny and Sarah pull back the curtain on what HR really does, and rip apart every myth that makes them want to flip a table. Spoiler: it's not party planning, it's not firing people for fun, and it is absolutely not easy.

    From a termination that had Sarah fearing for her physical safety in a basement, to a manager who sent Jenny in to handle a potentially violent situation and then got mad at her for not doing it fast enough — this one gets real about the mental, emotional, and sometimes physical toll of being an HR professional that nobody talks about.

    Whether you work in HR, manage a team, or have ever said the words "HR told me to do it," you'll leave with:

    • ✅ What HR is actually there to do and why good HR is proactive, not reactive
    • 💡 Why "HR keeps things fair by treating everyone the same" is a myth that drives them insane
    • 😂 The apple story that perfectly explains why equal treatment and equitable treatment are not the same thing
    • ✅ Why the second you say "HR made me do it," you've torched your own credibility as a leader

    Highlights:
    [00:00] Cold open: HR protects everyone
    [06:26] Topic: HR myths vs. reality
    [08:26] The real mental toll of terminations
    [12:09] The violent termination situation (and the Stanley cup backup plan)
    [15:25] Myth: HR just protects the company
    [23:56] Myth: HR treats everyone the same
    [28:30] Myth: HR handles performance issues
    [33:05] Myth: HR is reactive

    PS: HR knows more about you than you think, says less than you'd ever imagine, and is fighting for you behind the scenes in ways you'll probably never know.

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    40 分
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