In this episode of Untidy, Hannah and Matilda get bum-clenchingly honest about relationships, emotional triggers, fear of failure, and the disappointing truth that doing “the work” doesn’t mean you’re finally “fixed”... (Wait ... what?!) It’s Matty’s turn to talk Hannah off the ledge this week!

They talk hyper-vigilance, catching petty old patterns resurfacing, the pressure to get relationships right, and why knowing too much can sometimes make things harder. From breadcrumb conversations to the immensity of merging lives, they take a confronting look at the messy middle of building healthy relationships amongst an ocean of quirks, failings, foibles and feelings. Just when they thought they had it all together!

Earnest. Relatable. Slightly confronting. Very Untidy. A little bit silly.

References mentioned in the show:

• Listen to Unbound: Why love triggers us - and what to do about it with Georgia Vavasour and Hannah Davison on Spotify

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In this episode of Untidy, Matilda and Hannah are back together after Hannah’s pilgrimage in India to bring you a conversation covering all the HARD HITTING NEWS. Your Untidy chat is characterised by their consistency in offering you zero structure, maximum honesty, accidental wisdom, and altogether too much information, whether you wanted a discourse on butt hoses and glass bathrooms or not.

They’ll let you know how to tell if you’re in a cult, upset home appliance moguls, and enforce a group hug for the overwhelming show of solidarity from the listeners in response to the radically honest episode, ‘Do other people this hard?’

Jump on in and catch up with your gals!

If you’re enjoying Untidy, the best way to show your support is by tapping the ‘+ follow’ button in your podcast app and subscribing on YouTube! That way, fresh episodes will always be ready and waiting for you. Help us to keep building this supportive community — share an episode with a mate, and chuck us a 5-star review — it helps more people find our Untidy, unfiltered, and relatable chats. Thank you for listening, contributing and supporting this independent production! We’re grateful to have you here! — Hannah & Matty xx

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In this episode of Untidy, Matilda and Hannah chat with the unshockable Cath Hakanson, a globally renowned sex educator and founder of Sex Ed Rescue, Sex Ed Shop, and the podcast Sex Ed for Tween Parents.

Cath has helped over a million parents around the world talk to their kids about sex, bodies, gender, and relationships. Her mission is to make these conversations less cringey, more confident, and just a normal part of growing up.

Cath unpacks how to move from the early “naming body parts” phase into the next chapter: helping tweens and teens navigate puberty, privacy, porn, pleasure, consent, and that glorious age where everything is “weird and embarrassing.”

Cath’s advice is simple but golden: focus on tiny, everyday chats, drop the shame, and let your kids know you’re a safe person to ask anything. Because if they can talk to you about sex, they can talk to you about anything.

Whether you’re at the start of the puberty rollercoaster or halfway up the climb, this conversation will leave you feeling better equipped, less squeamish, and seeing sausages in a whole new light.

References mentioned in the show:

• Sex Ed Rescue — Cath’s website with parent guides, book lists, and resources
• Sex Ed for Tween Parents Podcast
• Amaze — short, age-appropriate sex ed videos for kids and parents
• The New Zealand “Keep It Real Online” campaign — including the viral ad Porn Stars at the Door
• Cath’s recommended reading list/book resources
• Tricky Chats Parenting Course
• Parent site: https://thelightproject.co.nz/
• Teen site: https://www.intheknow.co.nz/
• How to talk to young people about pornography – NZ Classification Office

If you’re enjoying Untidy, the best way to show your support is by tapping the ‘+ follow’ button in your podcast app and subscribing on YouTube! That way, fresh episodes will always be ready and waiting for you. Help us to keep building this supportive community — share an episode with a mate, and chuck us a 5-star review — it helps more people find our Untidy, unfiltered, and relatable chats. Thank you for listening, contributing and supporting this independent production! We’re grateful to have you here! — Hannah & Matty xx

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